DRK changes from Prelim notes

[Tint]

DRK's DPS was fine. It was on par with PLD. Is that so bad?

usually the jobs with more utility do less dps and the jobs with less utility do more dps. so since DRK has the least utility of all tanks he should either do more dps than the others or get some better utility.

as i see it PLD + WAR is still meta and DRK is still holding your party back - just not as much as before. i mean i don't really care, i don't even raid, i don't play the dps meta, i have tencaity melded... but the balancing feels still off.

but i am glad for the QoL changes and defense buff, because that's what i really care for ^^ plunge range increase and having one more longer lasting, weaker defense cooldown - especially before lvl 70 - would still be nice.

[shao32]

DRK's DPS was fine. It was on par with PLD. Is that so bad? And really, DRK is so much easier to play than PLD. You just don't cap out on blood or mana, and slam you CDs the moment they light up. Wow! PLD has to make sure to keep up their strict rotation.

Peronsally, I'm disappointed they didn't increase Plunge's range to match onslaught.

since shake it off is miles better that TBN DRK should wiled the best dps of the 3 or at least being equal to war, not being the lowest of the 3,and if you think DRK is more easy that PLD you never try seriously optimice DRK.

[Hierro]

since shake it off is miles better that TBN DRK should wiled the best dps of the 3 or at least being equal to war, not being the lowest of the 3,and if you think DRK is more easy that PLD you never try seriously optimice DRK.

Honey, I can beat you on chardanook.

[Llus]

since shake it off is miles better that TBN DRK should wiled the best dps of the 3 or at least being equal to war, not being the lowest of the 3,and if you think DRK is more easy that PLD you never try seriously optimice DRK.

I agree completely, since DRK doesn't have the raid utility to rival PLD or even WAR, DRK should be top DPS. I hope that the change to +140 potency DA+Plunge on 30s will help to even that out, but I really hate that it has an enmity modifier since that's the biggest (and arguably the ONLY) DPS gain DRK is getting from this patch.

[Eliroth-Kaminari]

i think DRK dps didnt increase much,

But Def cd managment whent easyer for busters.
i think i can use sole survivor to benefit heal and mp if timed right to expire 1-2s after buster.

DA-Plunge i see it merit in start so we can generate fast aggro on start but i see issue later that i useto use Plunge whit Bloodspiller DA wave and now Plundge will steal that DA .....

[Fourbestintoner]

Souleater still not working outside of grit.
Blood price still not working outside of grit.
Plunge range still too short.
Dark passenger still useless singe target, they should have removed the mp cost on it this patch, I don't care it would be too similar to circle of scorn.

Dark Arts Plunge

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[Deceptus]

Dark passenger still useless singe target, they should have removed the mp cost on it this patch, I don't care it would be too similar to circle of scorn.

. . . AOE abilities shouldn't be useful on single target. That's the point of aoe abilities. Not everything has to be useful in every situation.

[Valdegarde]

. . . AOE abilities shouldn't be useful on single target. That's the point of aoe abilities. Not everything has to be useful in every situation.

Let's change Circle of Scorn, Doton, Foul, Salted Earth, Shadow Flare etc. then because they're AoE abilities first and that's gotta be a dichotomy. This line of logic sounds extremely flawed. Dark Passenger was quite usable in Heavensward and there's no reason for it not to be right now. Dark Knight already has Salted Earth, Quietus, Abyssal Drain, and (ugh) Unleash for AoE, Dark Passenger being a STRICTLY AoE ability seems a waste of a cool animation and Dark Knight defining attack for the class.

[Kabooa]

Let's change Circle of Scorn, Doton, Foul, Salted Earth, Shadow Flare etc. then because they're AoE abilities first and that's gotta be a dichotomy. This line of logic sounds extremely flawed. Dark Passenger was quite usable in Heavensward and there's no reason for it not to be right now. Dark Knight already has Salted Earth, Quietus, Abyssal Drain, and (ugh) Unleash for AoE, Dark Passenger being a STRICTLY AoE ability seems a waste of a cool animation and Dark Knight defining attack for the class.

Because Dark wouldn't have enough buttons to press as is.

[Tint]

. . . AOE abilities shouldn't be useful on single target. That's the point of aoe abilities. Not everything has to be useful in every situation.

that's true. but Dark Passenger wasn't even that usefull in aoe situations. i only use it on low lvl for the aoe blind because it's at least something defense wise. and when i pull really really and my mana overflows and i have no idea where to spend it. so pretty niche.

however, there are other aoe skills wich are usefull on singletarget too. i have no idea about all the classes, but assise, aero 3, circle of scorn, shadow flare, salted earth and hissatsu guren come to my mind. so it's nothing new. and we are used to use dark passenger in single target from 3.0. changing it and then it's still kinda meh for aoe situations? then better change it back to the 3.0 state.

edit: man i am really a slow typer xD