Please read about Physical Levels and Removing them.

[Zkieve]

Nothing barely works but HP and MP so what exactly is the point ?Hard caps is a bad system and will ever be a bad system.
If they introduce new gear with , lets put an example.+10 str and i already have my str capped .What is even the point to gear up towards your required stat?.None.This system is made so everyone is the same.Everyone are hybrids.
Im sorry but i will never understand why people want to be hybrids on a MMO.for solo , sure.But for every aspect of the game ?
Lazy developers make lazy designs than some balancing and adjustments and stat grow could have definitely avoided this complete mess stat points are.Defending such a system because it gives you a illusion of freedom is beyond me.

Dont get me started on changing from a DoW to a DoM on this so called " freedom of choice" system.

[Kilta_Firelotus]

Zk
umm most jobs in ffxi were hybrids.
pld rdm blu dnc nin drk Just to name a few hybrids. Hybrids are not bad actually just the min/maxers felt they were useless and boss ppl in the game. I was a full rdm (dd/caster) and played the job fine.
every ff character was a hybrid.

do think before posting on anti hybrids. Hybrids are versitile. Dancer was an epic hybrid of melee/ cure/ debuff. They could solo/ tank if it was needed (on some stuff) main heal if needed and pull out some nice dmg if they could use their ws buffers.

[Zkieve]

Zk
umm most jobs in ffxi were hybrids.
pld rdm blu dnc nin drk Just to name a few hybrids. Hybrids are not bad actually just the min/maxers felt they were useless and boss ppl in the game. I was a full rdm (dd/caster) and played the job fine.
every ff character was a hybrid.

do think before posting on anti hybrids. Hybrids are versitile. Dancer was an epic hybrid of melee/ cure/ debuff. They could solo/ tank if it was needed (on some stuff) main heal if needed and pull out some nice dmg if they could use their ws buffers.

You really have no idea what your talking bout.Im not even gonna bother.

[Kilta_Firelotus]

Play fable sometime. TRry to min/max in melee only and see how good you are. Then combare it with a hybrid. All mmo have hybrid classes. Aion had some WoW does. Mabinogi is full of hybrids.

[Kilta_Firelotus]

You really have no idea what your talking bout.Im not even gonna bother.

then tell me mr min/maxer?

[Jennestia]

Play fable sometime. TRry to min/max in melee only and see how good you are. Then combare it with a hybrid. All mmo have hybrid classes. Aion had some WoW does. Mabinogi is full of hybrids.

Hybrids does indeed have to exist even if it's just to allow some breathing room from the 'holy trinity'.

[Zkieve]

Zk
umm most jobs in ffxi were hybrids.
pld rdm blu dnc nin drk Just to name a few hybrids. Hybrids are not bad actually just the min/maxers felt they were useless and boss ppl in the game. I was a full rdm (dd/caster) and played the job fine.
every ff character was a hybrid.

do think before posting on anti hybrids. Hybrids are versitile. Dancer was an epic hybrid of melee/ cure/ debuff. They could solo/ tank if it was needed (on some stuff) main heal if needed and pull out some nice dmg if they could use their ws buffers.

Okay i will try , even if i think im loosing my time when you say dnc was a tank and that those jobs were hybrids.

Pld was definetly NOT an hybrid.Paladin is a tank, Damage mitigation, enmity tools and some healing(for enmity mainly) 75 pld , maxed gear almost
Rdm is not an hybrid, rdm is a Debuffer, with some elemental/healing skills.was 70 rdm
Blu and dnc perhaps could be called hybrids ,but in my eyes Blu --> damage dealer based on dmg type,stun lock beast.
Dnc i cant comment on, to me dancer was always pretty useless.Never touched this 2jobs(dnc and blu)

Nin is a DMG dealer based on SPEED, later on to be played as tank becouse of shadows, (never intended to be played this way.75 maxed gear.

Drk is a damage dealer and a stunner.NOTHIN MORE.75 maxed gear with a kraken club.

Care to show me were exactly says this jobs are hybrids ?

Im fine with some hybrids, but everything hybrids ? that is just plain boring.Why would i play a game were everything and everyone are the same ?

[Kilta_Firelotus]

personally a full rdm in ffxi was better then a backline only healer. Sorry but mix/maxing don't promote teamwork really. It promote soloing in parties. Meaning purposly increasing stats full well knowing you will out hate a tank. Sorry that shouldn't be what mmo are about. That fact it turned into this is very displeasing.

[Zkieve]

personally a full rdm in ffxi was better then a backline only healer. Sorry but mix/maxing don't promote teamwork really. It promote soloing in parties. Meaning purposly increasing stats full well knowing you will out hate a tank. Sorry that shouldn't be what mmo are about. That fact it turned into this is very displeasing.

No , MMos are about min/maxing to bring THE BEST YOU CAN to your party ,to fullfill your given role (whatever that might be for that event ) at the best of your abilities.
I dont play a game to stare at paint dry.I play to advance with my party/linkshell/group of friends and to grow stronger together.

If you think everyone being the same job and having the same capabilities promotes party play, maybe one of us should review the genre.

Anyways we going really offtopic here,
edit; were exactly did i said that rdm was only for back line healing ?But of course you must be the type that tryed to melee as a rdm .
/facepalm .
Whatever floats your boat.

[Jennestia]

Drk is a damage dealer and a stunner.NOTHIN MORE.75 maxed gear with a kraken club.

I've tanked plenty of NMs as my DRK inside and outside of Abyssea. Stun is useful, however most NMs as of late resist it flatout or has such a high resistance rate you're better off just sucking up the damage and recovering at times, especially if tanking.

DRK has the benefit of being the better tank than PLD even lacking full dmg mitigation -- You can also deal high damage, especially with Quietus which will let you hold hate better than a PLD can ever dream of holding -- Some NMs, say Smok, you'll do better with a PLD tank, but other NMs? My DRK tanked just about every NM including Iratham inside of Abyssea -- on the outside I'm always ending up tanking NMs even if I don't try it -- DRK isn't designed as a tank, but it takes a skilled player to play as one.

DNC is a great tank, curer and soloer, which is what a hybrid is, PLD? I don't think it's so much of a hybrid but it is a DD/Tank, since Sanguine Blade can be pretty powerful, even for holding hate which does include beating out Atonement.