An alternative to parsing?

[KaldeaSahaline]

That is your POV though, as I said, for many people, a clear is a clear, no matter how sloppy it was.

I'm not arguing that, nor do I disagree with that statement. What I said was that if the entire party played at your level, you would have failed the duty. That means you failed equivalency. That is not an opinion or a POV. That is a mathematical fact.

To me, "carried" means, like you said, dude pays you guys and then sits in a corner watching you people kill the boss.

I think I mostly died on those thunder blows you had to share - if I failed that mech, and let a dps take the blow, there wouldve been no clear also.

You did fail that mech. You didn't use a cooldown and died. Passage of Arms isn't sufficient to block Twin Bolt at progression levels without extraordinarily well coordinated external CDs.

I said this above, did you not see/read it? There are varying degrees of getting carried. You obviously got carried less than someone who bought a kill. No one will deny that.

You'll sometimes see some world/server first kills that are really sloppy, with people making mistakes and dying, even sometimes a clear with a healer lb3 in it. Would you still consider the lesser players from those groups as being carried for their world first ? Would those teams kick the lower dps from their roster after each kill ?
A kill is a team work.

Correct. Your team did extra work to ensure that the kill still happened.

Your world first analogy is irrelevant to this discussion.

Do you understand the concept of equivalency? I explained it above, but did you miss it or not understand it?

tl;dr, : I think the term "carried" isn't constructive in a "I want to get better" thread

Again, this goes back to my original point. Remove your feelings from the equation and look a this objectively. You can sugarcoat it and use whatever word you want, but the premise still exists regardless.

ff you ask me the problem isn't if are dps meters are useful tool the are the problem is people can't behave with them and they come with way to much bs drama and other baggage look at WoW its like dps meters the game at this point dps meter drama is yet other thing from WoW i don't miss

Funny - I encountered this issue less than a handful of times in over 10+ years of playing WoW.