An alternative to parsing?

[KaivaC]

And once again a parser fan misses the point. People aren't worrying about people replaying their performance and seeing what they did or did not do. People are in party that only care about their numbers. Excessive reliance on a parser is very detrimental to team play.

That's just not true, because World First teams have often used it in their own progressions. I'm not sure what kind of parties you have been in or what kind of players that you have played with, but over-reliance on numbers is not the usual case. The logs available now are perfect for comparing what the top guys are doing to what you're doing. As far as numbers go, numbers are important. Just this morning, I went into V5S and our DPS was so low that we couldn't even kill the chimney. All of us asked if anybody was running a parse to find out who was not contributing enough so we could work on it together - and this was a PUG group.

What you are talking about are likely parse groups and speed kill groups, which...yeah, those groups only care about numbers. But again, those really are not representative of the majority. Many groups are satisfied with just having a good and getting the weekly clear out of the way.

To be clear, it's not allowed. It's a 3rd party program, it is explicitly banned. Using ACT, mods, any 3rd party programs that interact with the game or the game's data in any way, is against the ToS.

It's not explictly allowed, hence why there is a don't ask, don't tell policy that is generally adhered to that a lot of people follow. There's not really much of an issue as long as folks aren't going around and harassing people about their DPS. Nobody here is really arguing that it's against ToS. That much, we all acknowledge. The point of the thread, however, is to discuss alternatives that could be somewhat effective at replicating a little bit of what parsers do, like a compromise.