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    I suspect you're confusing it's capabilities with the actual hunt radar app =s

    Quote Originally Posted by Divinemights View Post
    They gave the reason and made it very clear it will never happen because of the Koike incident.
    It's a shame this gets cited as a reason for SE's stance as in all honesty, the parser aspect of it was just one of many angles they used to have a go at her. It was pretty clear that even with no parser data available, they would have still acted in the manner that they did. Trolls will be trolls irrespective of the tools they have to use
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sebazy View Post
    It's a shame this gets cited as a reason for SE's stance as in all honesty, the parser aspect of it was just one of many angles they used to have a go at her. It was pretty clear that even with no parser data available, they would have still acted in the manner that they did. Trolls will be trolls irrespective of the tools they have to use
    It is not just that.
    Japanese community will discipline themselves for this type of trolling behaviour.
    These trolls are outcast-ed and have to change server and the names (still vulnerable to JP community internal blacklist).
    English community on other hand will not discipline this type of trolling behaviur; and some will idolize these trolls.
    Yoship is showing the emotion of disgust every time someone bring up parer.
    It will simply never happens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Divinemights View Post
    It is not just that.
    Japanese community will discipline themselves for this type of trolling behaviour.
    These trolls are outcast-ed and have to change server and the names (still vulnerable to JP community internal blacklist).
    English community on other hand will not discipline this type of trolling behaviur; and some will idolize these trolls.
    Yoship is showing the emotion of disgust every time someone bring up parer.
    It will simply never happens.
    This is a gross assumption, and unfairly idealizes JP. Considering we have actual proof to the contrary, you're simply arguing with anecdote; poor ones, in particular.

    For reference sake, a year or so ago someone was scammed out of their house. NA's response? The precise same thing JP did; bombarding the couple with Magitek cannon fire for two days straight until a GM intervened and returned the house. Assuming NA would have any less a disgusted reaction, or that JP is above equally awful people who idolize such trolls is pure and simple bias.

    Quote Originally Posted by ZJyn View Post
    The issue with parsing is not the tool, but the people who use it.

    I couldn't care less if someone is running a damage parser in the background to evaluate their own performance. What I will take issue with is if they decide to spout off about other's performance if it doesn't meet their unrealistic standards or expectations.

    I'm never going to outparse someone who is in super awesome crazy gear. It won't happen. Do I put my all into every dungeon and trial that I run? Yes, and I know for a fact that i'm not near as bad as some folks who sleep through their dungeons.

    And yet, even with that, i've had people make rude comments in dungeons about my DPS.

    So to those who want the tool to just evaluate how they're doing? And see some numbers to reflect on their performance? Thumbs up. To people that are wanting to use it to malign others? Take a long look in the mirror, because you're the ones that are making the dev team second guess allowing this thing's use in the game.
    Contrary to popular belief, people are far less likely to scrutinize numbers without according for certain parameters, such as gear. Will some inevitably be jerks? Yes, but I've also been accused of buying my Savage clears by someone who clearly didn't have a parse going. The majority want a means of measuring their own performance, and a percentage from there want to evaluate the group on a reasonable basis. For example, I was helping a friend some weeks back and we wound up with a RDM who had no business joining at weekly clear run. While I certainly have no need to be rude, I am also not obligated to essentially carry someone. There is a stark difference between...

    "Hey, RDM? Your DPS is really low."
    "wtf RDM? You fucking suck."

    And it irks me the assumption is everyone who parses will always be the latter.
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