An alternative to parsing?

[mosaicex]

Been asking for it since 2.0, not happening, they never gave a reason why. This idea comes up every other month or so.

Actually Yoshi gave a reason back in one of liveletter Q&A sometime ago.
He said "We didn't want to enforce an idea that you have to perform well in the game"
Sounds crazy, I know.

[Asiragan]

I haven't seen people getting harassed by ACT a lot, I've even never personally witnessed it.
You don't need a tool to harras, without ACT there will just be as much harassment as with it.

Actually, Yoshida make little sense when he explained he didn't want to put a parser IG because of harassment. When so many people are using it without harassing others, this excuse doesn't really mean anything.

He should just say that the ones interested in a parser are actually using one and that it's not worth allocating ressource to implement one (Which would be kinda sad for PS4 users).

He said "We didn't want to enforce an idea that you have to perform well in the game"
Sounds crazy, I know.

To me, it somewhat remind me of the "it's okay to unsub when you're bored". Sometimes, Yoshida's speeches sounds a lot like "please don't play the game".

I'm not saying everyone should have mad skill when playing, but that players should at least read their skills and have a basic understanding of their jobs.

And if they don't, to at least not be salty if someone try to help them by giving advice...

[Fhaerron]

Actually, Yoshida make little sense when he explained he didn't want to put a parser IG because of harassment. When so many people are using it without harassing others, this excuse doesn't really mean anything.

Actually Yoshida Naoki says a lot of things. And has lied a lot too.

He should just say that the ones interested in a parser are actually using one and that it's not worth allocating ressource to implement one (Which would be kinda sad for PS4users).

I still think it's due the fact that there are so many people against it and he doesn't want to risk loosing them, same way as he doesn't want to risk loosing 90% of the raiding community so they don't ban people using the meter.

[KaivaC]

I still think it's due the fact that there are so many people against it and he doesn't want to risk loosing them, same way as he doesn't want to risk loosing 90% of the raiding community so they don't ban people using the meter.

That is, unfortunately, a really fair point about this. I'll admit, what we have currently is a best case scenario, but it still makes me wish for something native. Even something like an add-on that is only for your own records, one that is only shared if you choose the share it through a screenshot. While that doesn't give real-time updates, I think it would provide an option for PS4 users, should they want to use it.

[ElHeggunte]

Any kind of personal parser is a waste of time, not a compromise. Seeing only your own numbers in a vacuum is kind of pointless, especially if you're only seeing them after the instance is over. If we're to receive an official parser, it needs to be a proper real-time one that shows everyone present. SE needs to stop trying to spare the feelings of sandbags and develop a parser of their own or at least "legalize" existing ones like ACT (though having an in-house parser means consoles get in on the action too).

[Rinuko]

I used to joke/troll with my friends that enmity guage is a parser.
Aka I'm 2nd in list after tank so i do most DPS. Hence Diversion is a DPS loss.

Joking aside, I'd welcome a in-house parser but that will never happen.

[KaivaC]

Any kind of personal parser is a waste of time, not a compromise. Seeing only your own numbers in a vacuum is kind of pointless, especially if you're only seeing them after the instance is over. If we're to receive an official parser, it needs to be a proper real-time one that shows everyone present. SE needs to stop trying to spare the feelings of sandbags and develop a parser of their own or at least "legalize" existing ones like ACT (though having an in-house parser means consoles get in on the action too).

I'm right with you. I would 100% support either ACT being legal or an in house parser. But that will never happen unfortunately. A compromise might be the best solution for a legalized parser.

[Adeacia]

If raiders would leave without being able to parse, that right there tells me they aren't all that great of players to begin with. If you NEED a third party tool, then perhaps you need to get better at the game. A parser is a crutch used to counter their lack of skill.

[KDSilver]

Only works for Byako and it's received a huge backslash because 'people can see how I spam cure and not stone' type of why it should be removed from the game.

But that's why everyone in the party must give their permission to get recorded.
If people don't want to feel like being tracked, you have the option to not get in pf that use that tool.

This is a matter of agreement between everyone, so as long as everyone is, that's not a problem of the tool itself which is a great idea.

[Menriq]

If raiders would leave without being able to parse, that right there tells me they aren't all that great of players to begin with. If you NEED a third party tool, then perhaps you need to get better at the game. A parser is a crutch used to counter their lack of skill.

I'm not taking a side, but can you elaborate on how a parser "counter their lack of skill"? It seems most people who use a parser are actually trying to improve their skill.