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  1. #31
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    Renato's Avatar
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    Rael Levynfang
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    Goblin
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    White Mage Lv 90
    I'd be down for a "trance mode" that either unlocks new abilities or enhances previous abilities like in FFIX.

    As someone who hardly gets to see some of the cool lv3 Limit Breaks, I think it'd be cool.
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  2. #32
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    Rongway's Avatar
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    Cyrillo Rongway
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    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by SXTC View Post
    As far as the weak dps LB damage goes, I set the boss HP to % in the options wich is why I express it that way. But you've got to admit that there have been plenty of situations where a DPS sets off an LB with all bars filled and the HP bar of the boss didn't even move.. that gives you an indication of the damage it does.
    Percentage is irrelevant. If the LB does 300k damage in 10s, that's still 30kdps, which is 5x-8x as much as anyone would have done in the same time period. It absolutely does not matter whether that 300k happens to be 5% or 0.5% of the boss's health, because the 50k-60k that the user would have done on his own in those ten seconds is even less of the boss's health bar.

    Quote Originally Posted by SXTC View Post
    With using the wrong LB I was referring to situations where a certain class activates the LB while theirs has no effect on the situation "or" the fact that it often gets activated when the bars are almost full (when they could have been full in a few sec) or activate it just before the boss.
    Tank LB outside of a survivability mechanic and healer LB outside of a mass raise are wastes, and this should be something on which we can all agree.

    Pre-empting the final bar is also bad, if a lower LB wouldn't have ended the fight anyway. If a lower LB will kill the boss, don't bother waiting for the last bar to fill.

    But as for the last part, there are plenty of times that using the LB before the boss is the optimal choice. The bar empties upon engaging any raid boss, so a caster/ranger should pull with an LB during the countdown for the extra 40k-90k damage (use on trash before the boss if available; use on boss if residual LB from a wipe). In a dungeon, if the last pull has at least 4 mobs, using an AoE LB1 on that group will do more damage than a melee LB2 on the boss. If there are 7 or more mobs, using an AoE LB1 will do more damage than two melee LB2s.

    Quote Originally Posted by SXTC View Post
    People constantly make descissions that aren't in the best intrest of the party and there lies the problem.
    I propose that the issue is actually that many people don't yet understand what is in the best interest of the party. This is what needs fixing. The system itself is fine.
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    Last edited by Rongway; 05-17-2018 at 08:39 AM.
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  3. #33
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    SXTC's Avatar
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    Guardian Angel
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    Cerberus
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    White Mage Lv 100
    The system is fine besides the fact that people will never ever care for what the party needs and therefor its faulted.
    Nothing you can say will change that. And it needs to be fixed period.
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  4. #34
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    Luin's Avatar
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    Luin Vereist
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    Lamia
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by SXTC View Post
    right now LB is pretty useless and not usefull like you try to bring it because in 70% of the cases people activate LB too soon, they use the wrong LB or waste it on a mob instead of the boss. Only in 30% of the cases LB gets used correctly.
    I find it wrong that a 8 player party gets to see their LB get wasted because the random player they happened to end up with is too ignorant a bout how the system works (or too selfish) to care or understand how they should be used.
    On that end I think it wouldn't be wrong if SE made it the way it was supposed to be. So EVERYONE gets to contribute and EVERYONE except for yourself is allowed to ruin theirs without completely wasting the entire teams chances.
    right now LB is just used for speedkilling because LB generation is poorly balanced.

    LB needs a change but this isnt it.
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  5. #35
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    KaldeaSahaline's Avatar
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    Kaldea Sahaline
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    Behemoth
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    Gladiator Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by SXTC View Post
    The system is fine besides the fact that people will never ever care for what the party needs and therefor its faulted.
    Nothing you can say will change that. And it needs to be fixed period.
    You're being incredibly dramatic. While the LB system really isn't "good", your suggestions/proposals and understanding of the system/mechanics are incredibly misguided.

    So you're stating that "people" constantly make decisions that aren't in the best interests of the party. Why not cite some specific examples for context?
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