PoTD (and HoH) are not just for weapon capped speed demons

[Rongway]

In case you weren't aware, there are people the weapons ARE still relevant for

The weapons are not relevant in any of those cases, as you can get 260 weapons for 500 poetics, and a 270 upgrade for 100 more. This is a much better return per time investment than working up aetherpool levels for a 235/255 weapon.

[Dzian]

In HoH they're "fixing" it by putting desirable things for high level players in the silver coffers, so that they won't just skip them..

That won't really work though. Just look at potd. the whole reason they added the accursed horde sacks was to try and get people exploring the floors instead of skipping all the rooms and go to the portal.

Sure it worked for maybe a week until the market boards got flooded with all the loots and totally crashed the values. now they generally go completely ignored unless it's basically in your face. HOH is much the same you sense the horde calling you.. oh its all the way over there "sod thatttt"

[van_arn]

You go at the pace the rest of the party decides. If you're outvoted, whether they want to go faster or slower than you do, your option is to withdraw or buckle down and run at their pace.

Or they're welcome to just kick you. The party you were dealing with that committed glorious sudoku to get the party ejected from the dungeon merely found a creative way to veto your inclusion, without needing to burn their kick or abandon.

Better luck next time. Square can make attempts to limit player vetos, but they don't have the capability to halt them.

Ultimately you're playing with three other people, and you're going to have to learn how to be a team player. Or you'll see more glorious sudoku in your future.

[Sukamachi]

Those that want to do only speed runs should use party finder and create there own party. If they use duty finder they have no right to kick or complain if one goes after silver chests. If you do kick one for going after silver chest. Don't think GM will see it same way when that person reports them.

[Acelyn]

one of the most glaring issues in this game, all content becomes a speed run hellscape fairly quickly, i ran the original potd and my experience there made sure i wasnt gonna set foot in HoH.

you really cant complain though, unless they design some type of potd thats actually a dungeon with real traps and mechanics players are gonna go full throttle regardless.

[van_arn]

Those that want to do only speed runs should use party finder and create there own party. If they use duty finder they have no right to kick or complain if one goes after silver chests. If you do kick one for going after silver chest. Don't think GM will see it same way when that person reports them.

"playstyle differences." You go at the party's pace, or boot.

[TalithaSolarien]

"playstyle differences." You go at the party's pace, or boot.

Well, I've never seen anyone kicked from PotD/HoH in all my runs (and I've done literally hundreds for weapons for alt jobs in HoH). But yes, I usually adapt to what the party is doing (maybe doing a quick peek into a room on the side).

If I want to do a loot run then I usually create a Party Finder group for that.

[Bright-Flower]

Whenever I hop into duty finder, I have to accept that I may encounter others who want to play other ways.

I like to do big pulls and aoe in dungeons, at least high level ones. But if my healer wants to pull one group at a time, I'll pull one group at a time rather than enforce my will on the group.

If you use duty finder, you must accept not everyone will want to play as you do. If you want to speedrun POTD/HoH, and want to insist the whole party speed runs it, FORM A GROUP IN PARTY FINDER. If you're going to get upset about a tank or healer not wanting to do big aoe pulls in ex roulette, FORM A GROUP IN PARTY FINDER.

Granted I've never been kicked from a group in HoH/POTD for this, but I have definitely run into people who just want to gogogospeedrunallthetime. Only time I've been kicked I can recall was for using espers to clear out floors full of enemies instead of saving it for the boss on HoH floors 21-30.

[TheZeroDivide]

If the majority (3/4) of the group wants to speedrun, then you should speedrun that time. It boggles my mind that so many people think that when they play a group-based game, that their personal wishes should override the majority of the group.

This goes both ways. If you want to speed run and queue up solo, and the majority of the group wants to chest farm, then you chest farm. Again, the desires of the many outweigh the desires of the one.

If you want to ensure that you get the group style that you want, then Party Finder exists. Too many people on this thread saying that Party Finder is for one style or the other. It's for both styles. Entering solo puts you at the whims of the majority, as it should be. You don't get to hold the group hostage, one way or another, with how you personally want to run.