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    Shiroe's Avatar
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    Alchemist Lv 100
    for Aether, tabing thru the partylist is imo way to slow with a pad, needs to be instant..

    use the partylist for things like rez (when playing smn), but Aethermanipulation usally needs to be executed instantly to dogde aoe or stack up fast
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    Player Dualgunner's Avatar
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    Lilila Lila
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shiroe View Post
    for Aether, tabing thru the partylist is imo way to slow with a pad, needs to be instant..

    use the partylist for things like rez (when playing smn), but Aethermanipulation usally needs to be executed instantly to dogde aoe or stack up fast
    Really kind of goes with the whole "Need to know what's coming and when" for Black Mage. Know when these aoes and stacks are going to happen and plan ahead, including softlocking the party member you want to hop to during the casting animation beforehand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dualgunner View Post
    Really kind of goes with the whole "Need to know what's coming and when" for Black Mage. Know when these aoes and stacks are going to happen and plan ahead, including softlocking the party member you want to hop to during the casting animation beforehand.
    even when you know when its about to come, blm are often in the mid of casting, and need to move asap..

    softlocking sucks on ps4, end up losing your enemy target at times, even when focus targeting rhe boss..

    its just way too slow and clunky if you don't use a macro with pre target player in the macro

    as smn lose enough time when rezing and using the party list tab...

    it would be easy to reduce the amount of buttons needed for blm, so there is more room for macros or other moves on the keysets for ps4 players (like LL and BtL could use the same action); without blm losing its fun / gameplay

    ... ether way, im looking forward to the blm changes, hope it will allow less casttime loses when using AM or BtL
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    Gunks Foy
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Shiroe View Post
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    I don't really understand when controller players complain about action space. As a former controller player, the only jobs I ever felt limited on were Scholar and Summoner, and I solved that by macroing pet spells to the summon spells and placing summon spells on a shared hotbar. Black Mage probably has the least number of necessary actions to put on a hotbar. On PC, all of my essential skills fit on 2 hotbars, 24 slots, which is 1 XHBR and the expanded sets. I played for years using 2 job hotbars and a single shared hotbar and never felt hindered or cramped. Is keyboard a tad easier? sure, but controller is totally viable and does not need special concessions made for it.
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    Jack Cinder
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    Excalibur
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Shiroe View Post
    for Aether, tabing thru the partylist is imo way to slow with a pad, needs to be instant..

    use the partylist for things like rez (when playing smn), but Aethermanipulation usally needs to be executed instantly to dogde aoe or stack up fast
    it really is faster than you think. you can often quick tap a d-pad 2-5 times a little faster than mouse targeting your desired target, while completely eliminating the entire macro queuing issue of this game. often for fights where AM is a useful tool, you can see ahead on where you'll need to use it and plan for it. getting your target hovered while in the middle of casting your f4 is pretty easy. getting down using it without clipping, like during instant casts will take a little practice though. remember, 99% of the time, you'll either be going to a ranged party member, or one of the tanks, so most of the time you only need to tap up twice, or down twice. I don't think this is really too difficult, but maybe i'm just used to equipment quick swapping in dark souls as practice.
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