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  1. #111
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    Malkria's Avatar
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    Selina Maimhov
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    Quote Originally Posted by Remyogic View Post
    Roger AND Ebert? "CRITICS" "THEY" LOL......it's ROGER EBERT. ONE PERSON. Great argument from a stance of knowledge.........

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Ebert

    Read his bio, I'd say he had quite an extensive grasp on entertainment, writing proficiency, and storytelling. You shot yourself in the foot with this one..
    You are right, I meant Siskel and Ebert. Either way, they were MOVIE critics...but they didn't make movies. But with their backgrounds even not being directly related to making movies, they still were able to make thoughtful critical analysis of aspects of movies. By your logic they shouldn't know what they were talking about.

    Quote Originally Posted by Remyogic View Post
    This is a joke right? Sighting Youtube as the basis for any argument is laughable.
    Really? Because the fact that these reviewers are able to make money of said review to the point it is their job shows that their opinion is valued by enough people for that to be true. Furthermore supporting my statement that you don't have to make games to be able to critique them, because while you could argue that it is partly showmanship and have a valid point. The fact is that if they didn't have good points and understand the games they were reviewing they wouldn't be able to keep a viewer base. So again, by your logic these people would have needed to work in the game development industry for years, where most of them were gamers who decided to start reviewing games.

    So laugh all you want, but it still is a valid platform for reviews and the reviewers are legit at what they do.

    Quote Originally Posted by Remyogic View Post
    Mounted on legs? REALLY?!?!?!

    "Setting up your gun in a turret fashion" - Dropping the tripod stabilizers on a machine gun is NOWHERE near this analogy. The statement is just blind.

    BTW -> Putting a turret on a mobile base is so that you can move your firepower INTO harms way and do the most damage. That's the reason turrets are most commonly found on ARMORED vehicles. Whose point is falling flat?
    So setting up your gun in a braced manner to better track and put down targets is in no way or shape to how a turret functions? Then the BLM isn't a turret either, A) a BLM can move at all under their own power, B) the job isn't "a small tower on top of a larger tower or at the corner of a building or wall, typically of a castle;" or "a low, flat armored gun emplacement, typically one that revolves, in a ship, aircraft, fort, or tank." So since you brought in that definition...that one is on you.

    In fact I don't even understand your intent at this point. I mean I understand that the job is supposed to play in a 'turret style', but it still isn't an actual turret. So I honestly have no clue what your argument in this section is trying to do or show.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zerathor View Post
    Yes. For blm to not top the damage, it means you do not know the job. How can you judge what you do not know properly? Nobody would take that seriously.
    For "BLM to not top the damage"...not exactly sure what you are saying here. If I am not topping the damage as a BLM? If the job in general is not top damage?

    Either way, again you don't need to top the parser to understand how the job works, or at minimum how it is being played. The intent is for the job to be trying to push out as much damage without moving as much as possible to maximize the timer for umbral hearts and astral fire phases of damage, correct? Meanwhile using swift and triple cast along with the other instant procs to move as necessary around mechanics, at least the ones you can't just eat the damage over. So if I understand all that...why do I need to make top parser, which again is against the ToS to use, to be able to form an opinion? You don't always need to master something to know that something just isn't being done as well as it could be.

    Furthermore your stated attitude is exactly why the devs don't like parsers. I would report you myself but frankly I doubt the moderators have the ability to ban your game from the forum, and even if you say you use them there isn't any actual proof of it. So I guess we will just have to settle with you being called a jerk, you jerk.
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  2. #112
    Player Mhaeric's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malkria View Post
    If the job [BLM] in general is not top damage?
    You keep saying this. It's demonstrably not true.
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  3. #113
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mhaeric View Post
    You keep saying this. It's demonstrably not true.
    I didn't SAY that I was trying to derive meaning from his very bad grammar. You REALLY are stretching to 'win' at the internet if you take a question as a statement of fact. o.O
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  4. #114
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    EllieShadeflare's Avatar
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    You have made statements that suggest BLM isn't the best in damage. The person you were correcting at first was working off of that, so it's not exactly taking you out of context.
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  5. #115
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    Quote Originally Posted by EllieShadeflare View Post
    You have made statements that suggest BLM isn't the best in damage. The person you were correcting at first was working off of that, so it's not exactly taking you out of context.
    Yes I did...days ago, which since then I have stopped. Next.
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  6. #116
    Player Dualgunner's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malkria View Post
    For "BLM to not top the damage"...not exactly sure what you are saying here. If I am not topping the damage as a BLM? If the job in general is not top damage?
    He means if the player playing BLM is of equivalent gear to his party members, if they are doing less than the other party members, then they are not doing well.

    Either way, again you don't need to top the parser to understand how the job works, or at minimum how it is being played.
    Don't need a medical degree to think the current methods of heart transplant surgery are flawed either. I can also just run over to the podiatrist any time I need a crown in my teeth or a cavity filling too.

    The intent is for the job to be trying to push out as much damage without moving as much as possible to maximize the timer for umbral hearts and astral fire phases of damage, correct?
    Uhm...kind of? The intent of the job is to maximize fire IV casts while maintaining enochian, with the knowledge fire IV and blizzard IV themselves to not refresh Astral Fire or Umbral Ice.
    Meanwhile using swift and triple cast along with the other instant procs to move as necessary around mechanics, at least the ones you can't just eat the damage over. So if I understand all that...why do I need to make top parser, which again is against the ToS to use, to be able to form an opinion? You don't always need to master something to know that something just isn't being done as well as it could be.
    So you understand all that, great. Then understand that people like playing like that, and are good at playing like that, and if you think that the gameplay style is so counterintuitive as to be stressful and not fun to play, the job probably just isn't for you.
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  7. #117
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    This thread, my goodness.

    BLM is fine.
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  8. #118
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malkria View Post
    .
    Wow, so many separate quotes from one person. Chopping up their post and responding separately. You must be trying to cry for their attention.



    Just gonna leave this here...

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post4670653
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  9. #119
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoroMurasaki View Post
    Wow, so many separate quotes from one person. Chopping up their post and responding separately. You must be trying to cry for their attention.



    Just gonna leave this here...

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post4670653
    Lol nice find.
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  10. #120
    Player Mhaeric's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by P_Wing View Post
    Lol nice find.
    It wasn't a find, per se, since people were conversing with each other in both threads simultaneously yesterday, so that particular ad hominem post du jour (de l'heure, really) of theirs was still fresh to mind. Basically, after failing to get people on board with their misinformed position in this thread, they went over to that RDM thread to try their luck with their BLM is the worst caster shtick. You can imagine how well that went over with RDM mains. Both the thread hopping and the oddball opinion got called out, and after failing to convince people that their opinion was the majority they essentially 'took their ball home', which meant coming back to this thread.

    It's definitely amusing though.
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    Last edited by Mhaeric; 05-16-2018 at 11:14 AM.

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