Black magic...kinda sucks

[Zerathor]

So what you are trying to say is that unless I am topping the charts with whatever parser then apparently I am not 'proficient' and thus can't judge the job or any of it's issues?

Yes. For blm to not top the damage, it means you do not know the job. How can you judge what you do not know properly? Nobody would take that seriously.

Despite the fact that A) pasrsers are against the game's ToS,

False, you just can't kick bad players for being bad dps. Even devs parse. This stuff is all pretty common knowledge.

B) that isn't true.

True, if they are actually performing properly. 99% of the time with zero feed back however, they are not. unless they have friends who assist them with data. Unless you meant the ability to judge how a job you don't know works, in which case, see point one.

[Malkria]

Roger AND Ebert? "CRITICS" "THEY" LOL......it's ROGER EBERT. ONE PERSON. Great argument from a stance of knowledge.........

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Ebert

Read his bio, I'd say he had quite an extensive grasp on entertainment, writing proficiency, and storytelling. You shot yourself in the foot with this one..

You are right, I meant Siskel and Ebert. Either way, they were MOVIE critics...but they didn't make movies. But with their backgrounds even not being directly related to making movies, they still were able to make thoughtful critical analysis of aspects of movies. By your logic they shouldn't know what they were talking about.

This is a joke right? Sighting Youtube as the basis for any argument is laughable.

Really? Because the fact that these reviewers are able to make money of said review to the point it is their job shows that their opinion is valued by enough people for that to be true. Furthermore supporting my statement that you don't have to make games to be able to critique them, because while you could argue that it is partly showmanship and have a valid point. The fact is that if they didn't have good points and understand the games they were reviewing they wouldn't be able to keep a viewer base. So again, by your logic these people would have needed to work in the game development industry for years, where most of them were gamers who decided to start reviewing games.

So laugh all you want, but it still is a valid platform for reviews and the reviewers are legit at what they do.

Mounted on legs? REALLY?!?!?!

"Setting up your gun in a turret fashion" - Dropping the tripod stabilizers on a machine gun is NOWHERE near this analogy. The statement is just blind.

BTW -> Putting a turret on a mobile base is so that you can move your firepower INTO harms way and do the most damage. That's the reason turrets are most commonly found on ARMORED vehicles. Whose point is falling flat?

So setting up your gun in a braced manner to better track and put down targets is in no way or shape to how a turret functions? Then the BLM isn't a turret either, A) a BLM can move at all under their own power, B) the job isn't "a small tower on top of a larger tower or at the corner of a building or wall, typically of a castle;" or "a low, flat armored gun emplacement, typically one that revolves, in a ship, aircraft, fort, or tank." So since you brought in that definition...that one is on you.

In fact I don't even understand your intent at this point. I mean I understand that the job is supposed to play in a 'turret style', but it still isn't an actual turret. So I honestly have no clue what your argument in this section is trying to do or show.

Yes. For blm to not top the damage, it means you do not know the job. How can you judge what you do not know properly? Nobody would take that seriously.

For "BLM to not top the damage"...not exactly sure what you are saying here. If I am not topping the damage as a BLM? If the job in general is not top damage?

Either way, again you don't need to top the parser to understand how the job works, or at minimum how it is being played. The intent is for the job to be trying to push out as much damage without moving as much as possible to maximize the timer for umbral hearts and astral fire phases of damage, correct? Meanwhile using swift and triple cast along with the other instant procs to move as necessary around mechanics, at least the ones you can't just eat the damage over. So if I understand all that...why do I need to make top parser, which again is against the ToS to use, to be able to form an opinion? You don't always need to master something to know that something just isn't being done as well as it could be.

Furthermore your stated attitude is exactly why the devs don't like parsers. I would report you myself but frankly I doubt the moderators have the ability to ban your game from the forum, and even if you say you use them there isn't any actual proof of it. So I guess we will just have to settle with you being called a jerk, you jerk.

[Mhaeric]

If the job [BLM] in general is not top damage?

You keep saying this. It's demonstrably not true.

[Malkria]

You keep saying this. It's demonstrably not true.

I didn't SAY that I was trying to derive meaning from his very bad grammar. You REALLY are stretching to 'win' at the internet if you take a question as a statement of fact. o.O

[Dualgunner]

For "BLM to not top the damage"...not exactly sure what you are saying here. If I am not topping the damage as a BLM? If the job in general is not top damage?

He means if the player playing BLM is of equivalent gear to his party members, if they are doing less than the other party members, then they are not doing well.

Either way, again you don't need to top the parser to understand how the job works, or at minimum how it is being played.

Don't need a medical degree to think the current methods of heart transplant surgery are flawed either. I can also just run over to the podiatrist any time I need a crown in my teeth or a cavity filling too.

The intent is for the job to be trying to push out as much damage without moving as much as possible to maximize the timer for umbral hearts and astral fire phases of damage, correct?

Uhm...kind of? The intent of the job is to maximize fire IV casts while maintaining enochian, with the knowledge fire IV and blizzard IV themselves to not refresh Astral Fire or Umbral Ice.

Meanwhile using swift and triple cast along with the other instant procs to move as necessary around mechanics, at least the ones you can't just eat the damage over. So if I understand all that...why do I need to make top parser, which again is against the ToS to use, to be able to form an opinion? You don't always need to master something to know that something just isn't being done as well as it could be.

So you understand all that, great. Then understand that people like playing like that, and are good at playing like that, and if you think that the gameplay style is so counterintuitive as to be stressful and not fun to play, the job probably just isn't for you.

[MoroMurasaki]

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Wow, so many separate quotes from one person. Chopping up their post and responding separately. You must be trying to cry for their attention.



Just gonna leave this here...

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post4670653

[P_Wing]

Wow, so many separate quotes from one person. Chopping up their post and responding separately. You must be trying to cry for their attention.



Just gonna leave this here...

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post4670653

Lol nice find.

[Mhaeric]

Lol nice find.

It wasn't a find, per se, since people were conversing with each other in both threads simultaneously yesterday, so that particular ad hominem post du jour (de l'heure, really) of theirs was still fresh to mind. Basically, after failing to get people on board with their misinformed position in this thread, they went over to that RDM thread to try their luck with their BLM is the worst caster shtick. You can imagine how well that went over with RDM mains. Both the thread hopping and the oddball opinion got called out, and after failing to convince people that their opinion was the majority they essentially 'took their ball home', which meant coming back to this thread.

It's definitely amusing though.

[Zerathor]

Furthermore your stated attitude is exactly why the devs don't like parsers. I would report you myself but frankly I doubt the moderators have the ability to ban your game from the forum, and even if you say you use them there isn't any actual proof of it. So I guess we will just have to settle with you being called a jerk, you jerk.

Do it. It's not against ToS. Welcome to 2018. If using a parser wasnt allowed, 95% of people doing savage/ult would be banned. And every streamer ever.

You just can't harass people in game about their damage. There's nothing against using them for personal improvement.

So, subconsciously it seems you've accepted your arguments hold zero weight if your only response is to attempt to threaten people. Which is cute.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

Furthermore your stated attitude is exactly why the devs don't like parsers. I would report you myself but frankly I doubt the moderators have the ability to ban your game from the forum, and even if you say you use them there isn't any actual proof of it. So I guess we will just have to settle with you being called a jerk, you jerk.

So you would report someone with the hopes they are banned for simply pointing out Black Mages should be near top DPS to actually have a believable grasp on the job? And you wondered earlier why people's tone shifted towards you? Nobody has said you have to be top tier to have a good understanding. I would, however, expect some degree of proficiency. The fact you immediately go to the report button because someone uses a parse screams you aren't looking to improve or engage but simply want everyone to agree with your opinion and no other.

Do you know why Black Mage doing "top damage" is considered a decent benchmark? It has the strongest personal DPS in the game, currently. If you're routinely getting out damaged by say, Red Mage or Bard. You really lack an authority to insist the job needs a supposed overhaul. Giving an opinion more free movement may be a better alternative is one thing. Alas, you haven't done that, but instead shout down anyone who prefers Black Mage as is.