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    Kabooa's Avatar
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    Jace Ossura
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    Goldsmith Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Malkria View Post
    Right...I don't understand a job that has one of the most simplistic rotations and play styles in the game.
    Sounds about right.
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    Selina Maimhov
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    Astrologian Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Kabooa View Post
    Sounds about right.
    You know, for a group that seems to think everything is working as intended...you all are very defensive about a single voice giving protest. Or is it that I am NOT the only one pointing these things out? That maybe there might actually be some substance to what I am saying? In which case the way you all are so quick to defend this job despite it's issues becomes apparent. I wonder if you all reacted the same way to these "quality of life" changes that Square put forward in the expansion, and claimed it would kill the job then too?
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    Last edited by Malkria; 05-14-2018 at 12:08 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malkria View Post
    You know, for a group that seems to think everything is working as intended...you all are very defensive about a single voice giving protest. Or is it that I am NOT the only one pointing these things out? That maybe there might actually be some substance to what I am saying? In which case the way you all are so quick to defend this job despite it's issues becomes apparent. I wonder if you all reacted the same way to these "quality of life" changes that Square put forward in the expansion, and claimed it would kill the job then too?
    Black mage has issues. Transpose and timers are not among them.
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    Mika Chu
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    Summoner Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Malkria View Post
    You know, for a group that seems to think everything is working as intended...you all are very defensive about a single voice giving protest. Or is it that I am NOT the only one pointing these things out? That maybe there might actually be some substance to what I am saying? In which case the way you all are so quick to defend this job despite it's issues becomes apparent. I wonder if you all reacted the same way to these "quality of life" changes that Square put forward in the expansion, and claimed it would kill the job then too?
    Ah, what a classic logical fallacy. "If many people disagree with me, then I must have a valid point!" I don't understand how you can try to spin many people pointing out various flaws in your suggestions to mean you have a strong case.

    There are many other people voicing their opinion on the flaws of BLM. The difference is that the problems they identify are actual problems. BLM does have problems, the thing is that the problems you identified aren't them. The other thing is that these people are likely BLM veterans who have some minor issues with recent changes. You are a player that is completely new to the job, and hate the playstyle that you had from the very start. You've had no previous iteration of BLM to love.

    Since your arguments are purely anecdotal, I'll give an anecdote too. When I tried Ninja for the first time in level 70 content, I found it incredibly stressful and fast-paced. I was dropping combos, bunnying my mudras, dropping Huton, missing Trick Attacks. I was determined to get good at Ninja because I liked the aesthetic, so I played nothing but Ninja for a good week.

    At the end of that week, I was still shit at Ninja.

    Granted, I got a bit better, but still couldn't nail down the core aspects of the job. The thing is that I accept Ninja's playstyle as really fast-paced and heavy on cooldown management, and I accepted that the playstyle was stressful and not for me. I don't fault the players for liking the job. The job provides a unique, fast-paced experience that no other job provides, and I respect that. I decided to try other jobs hoping that one will click. And mind you, that job ISN'T Black Mage. I don't main Black Mage, I play it casually, in expert roulette, treasure hunts and normal raids, enough so that I can understand the intricacies of its design and appreciate the unique gameplay experience it provides.

    I think the issue most people have with your suggestions, other than them addressing things that aren't problems, is that you imply that the job should be more like SMN. You say BLM is too immobile, it should be able to move more like SMN. People take issue with that because your agenda is to try and push a more homogenised BLM experience, which is something BLM players play the job specifically not to have.

    The job has been dumbed down a lot since HW. If you hate the timer aspect of it, then you would have had so many qualms with HW Enochian. But the fact of the matter is that timers and immobility have always been a pretty central aspect of BLM's playstyle. People that have played the job since ARR likely are attracted to these two aspects of the job, and if they changed that, they have every right to be annoyed. Look at the 3.x MCH and SMN mains.
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    Last edited by Popotato; 05-15-2018 at 01:10 AM. Reason: grammar