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    Karl0217's Avatar
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    Ul'dah
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    Koh'a Ganajai
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    Diabolos
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Argyle_Darkheart View Post
    How exactly is this an issue (let alone the biggest)?
    Well, we could answer that with another question: what's wrong with people who just got their beginner's permit driving like race car and stunt drivers on the public highway? Because that is exactly the kind of situation with the average duty/party finder party and the meta. Some times it works and the results are impressive; however, most of the time the party crashes and burns. To give one example, big pulls and AoE spam are meta. Ever have somebody try to do a big pull in the first room of Aurum Vale in the duty finder?
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    Hammerhorn's Avatar
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    Hammerhorn Oathsworn
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    Excalibur
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    The tanks who raid know exactly what Im talkin bout all the duty finder fast ques dont have no clue and couldnt care less. Im a PLD main since beta I know thier strong points and weak points this update will put them on the weak side when DPS= Clears for top raid content.
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    Aquis Onionslicer
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    Ragnarok
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Don't give a damn, still pally.
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    Hammerhorn Oathsworn
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    Excalibur
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    The tanks who raid know exactly what Im talkin bout all the duty finder fast ques dont have no clue and couldnt care less. Im a PLD main since beta I know thier strong points and weak points this update will put them on the weak side when DPS= Clears for top raid content.
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    Agret Fury
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    Sargatanas
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    Warrior Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Hammerhorn View Post
    The tanks who raid know exactly what Im talkin bout all the duty finder fast ques dont have no clue and couldnt care less. Im a PLD main since beta I know thier strong points and weak points this update will put them on the weak side when DPS= Clears for top raid content.
    Hey, you should be happy that they get more DPS, maybe you'll be able to break 50th percentile by switching to DRK! Before screaming "The sky is falling! The sky is falling!", because you won't be able to to end-game raids; do the end-game raids....
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    Last edited by Llus; 05-16-2018 at 09:03 AM.

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    Daul Ban
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    Ultros
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    Paladin Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Llus View Post
    Hey, you should be happy that they get more DPS, maybe you'll be able to break 50th percentile by switching to DRK! Before screaming "The sky is falling! The sky is falling!", because you won't be able to to end-game raids; do the end-game raids....
    What he's saying sounds kinda... strange, but there's no reason to bring his fflogs into the conversation.
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    One day I'll be the MT mountain I want to be... But that day is not today. (As of Patch 3.2)

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    Agret Fury
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    Sargatanas
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    Warrior Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by DaulBan View Post
    What he's saying sounds kinda... strange, but there's no reason to bring his fflogs into the conversation.
    He's saying that since he's an end-game raider, he knows that other end-game raiders are ALL going to drop PLDs from their PFs and implying that he won't be able to either raid anymore or raid as a PLD. So, I look him up; he has 2 clears, both below 50th percentile... So, I believe it's relevant to the conversation; his claim about knowing how raiders are going to respond and his vast experience boils down to 2 clears on the current raid tier and nothing on the previous raid tier. He's crying out about how baaaad it's going to be for PLDs now, but has no experience or statistics to back it up. I believe it's completely relevant to point that out.
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    Mute Shellback
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    Behemoth
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Llus View Post
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    Your attitude is why FFlogs are a double edged sword.
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    Ziero Rehw-bidit
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    Malboro
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by WhyAmIHere View Post
    Your attitude is why FFlogs are a double edged sword.
    Someday we'll all have oranges. We're gonna make it, brahs.
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    Gulvioir Muruc
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    Gilgamesh
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    We don't even know what the changes are beyond plunge LOL.
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