Mod users in FFXIV are getting out of control

[KisaiTenshi]

Oh...you're back.

So, tell me: if I decided to go for a mod that allows Kaiva to be barefoot, who exactly does that affect aside from me?

I take it you never heard of podophilia.

It's the same as me coming on these forums, making a post saying that one of the graphic options is offensive and triggers my feelings therefore no one should use it and it should be removed and banned.

You must be new here. Every time something new is added to the game someone pops up and demands it be removed. Go back and check what happened to DRK's original glow.

The "it's only pixels argument" is "I was only joking" for image theft. So if an image is only pixels, then you won't mind if someone raids your facebook and pretends to be you. It's only pixels, those aren't you, they're just ones and zeros.

[AkashiXI]

The "it's only pixels argument" is "I was only joking" for image theft. So if an image is only pixels, then you won't mind if someone raids your facebook and pretends to be you. It's only pixels, those aren't you, they're just ones and zeros.

No, because that would be identity theft. You own your body and what it’s used for (which is why deep fake is banned), you don’t own your FFXIV avatar — Square does.

[KisaiTenshi]

No, because that would be identity theft. You own your body and what it’s used for (which is why deep fake is banned), you don’t own your FFXIV avatar — Square does.

So what. The pro-mods side of the argument doesn't care. It's only pixels, they won't mind if fakes exist of themselves in explicit situations outside their control.

[Crystal_Raven]

So what. The pro-mods side of the argument doesn't care. It's only pixels, they won't mind if fakes exist of themselves in explicit situations outside their control.

Aaand you're a troll, well done on not using logic and using feelings to argue.

Honestly after reading your responses to what we've said, i can't help but to believe something is actually wrong with you.

There is no way a well adjusted normal person behaves and reacts, responds like you do. I wish you a good life, i am not bothering with this. Got better things to do with my time.

[KisaiTenshi]

Are you trolling right now Kisai? I hope you are cause this is getting ridiculous....

An image of yourself in real life on a computer is still an image of a real person.

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The modders want it both ways, to not be held responsible for their rule breaking, and yet claim that they're hurting nobody because pixels don't have feelings. You can't tell people to not care about what happens to their in-game avatars, especially RP'ers. That's just being incredibly mean to people who don't share the same view. Most of this thread is people being incredibly caustic to each other trying to justify their harassment because "it's not real".

[Miste]

So if an image is only pixels, then you won't mind if someone raids your facebook and pretends to be you. It's only pixels, those aren't you, they're just ones and zeros.

Are you trolling right now Kisai? I hope you are cause this is getting ridiculous....

An image of yourself in real life on a computer is still an image of a real person.

Keyword: REAL
adjective
1.
true; not merely ostensible, nominal, or apparent:

2.
existing or occurring as fact; actual rather than imaginary, ideal, or fictitious:

3.
being an actual thing; having objective existence; not imaginary


A photograph of a human being put on a computer and into the world wide web is still a image of a real person who exists in reality.

When people say something is "just pixels" it is a describer of something that was created with a computer and has no real existence in reality.

A video game character model designed by a game studio's art team is NOT real and does not exist in reality.

Photo of a real person /=/ screenshot of a video game character

Video game character /=/ a real life person

[KaivaC]

I take it you never heard of podophilia.

Ok...I see where this is headed. You exemplify the very definition of twisting and turning something. Probably wouldn't matter what I said in that post you quoted, you'd probably find some way to link it back to this foolishness that you've been perpetuating for some time. I could've said color blind mod, and you'd have been like 'that's cheating because its manipulating the color scheme originally designed by the devs and gives color blind players an unfair advantage because they aren't distracted by all these colors of the game' or whatever.

[Miraiina]

Ok...I see where this is headed. You exemplify the very definition of twisting and turning something. Probably wouldn't matter what I said in that post you quoted, you'd probably find some way to link it back to this foolishness that you've been perpetuating for some time. I could've said color blind mod, and you'd have been like 'that's cheating because its manipulating the color scheme originally designed by the devs and gives color blind players an unfair advantage because they aren't distracted by all these colors of the game' or whatever.

I'm pretty sure Kisai just lives for the argument (long time observer of forums, just saying... >.> )

At any rate, since this is still ongoing my 2 cents (echoed by many others in the thread in one fashion or another) is at the end of the day, for the most part many of the supposed victims are not going to know if their character has been photographed in the buff, and considering you need very specific parameters met in order to do so, its not a thing that happens very frequently if I had to take a guess. Yeah sure, there are mods that turn very specific glam pieces into lingerie or into a modded version of itself, but usually only the person modding really cares about that on their own character, not another person's character.

Bottom line is if the OP is seriously afraid because of harassment, they need to report it to the proper authorities, but otherwise let it be. If someone wants to take the risk to mod their game to their tastes, who am I to judge? I play vanilla and that suits me just fine, which is what matters in the end. If someone is being harrassed with modding, report it and move on, they will surely be dealt with. It's no use to drag a whole group down due to actions of a few stupid individuals, that is just opening a whole can of worms...