Mod users in FFXIV are getting out of control

[JackHatchet]

My only issue when it comes with examples of "strictest interpretation" is that people like to lie and delude themselves and pretend that some things aren't what they are.

You know, if ACT is hacking, because it accesses Square's info without their consent then it should be accept that it's hacking. People shouldn't be butchering the language and lying to compensate for the fact that like ACT. I think they should just own up to it. If it's hacking--admit that it's hacking, but also admit that it's hacking on such a minute level that it's inconsequential.

But if it is hacking, and someone says it's not, and thus ignores how language works--then they're lying. And if someone is willing to lie out of bias then that just pisses me off. (I support damage meters. I just don't want folks lying on the internet).

[Lynart]

My only issue when it comes with examples of "strictest interpretation" is that people like to lie and delude themselves and pretend that some things aren't what they are.

You know, if ACT is hacking, because it accesses Square's info without their consent then it should be accept that it's hacking. People shouldn't be butchering the language and lying to compensate for the fact that like ACT. I think they should just own up to it. If it's hacking--admit that it's hacking, but also admit that it's hacking on such a minute level that it's inconsequential.

But if it is hacking, and someone says it's not, and thus ignores how language works--then they're lying. And if someone is willing to lie out of bias then that just pisses me off. (I support damage meters. I just don't want folks lying on the internet).

.......word of advice, you will not make any friends by projecting your ego and values onto others.

What you just said is applicable to caffeine. You wanna piss off some people? Tell them caffeine is a drug and comparable to marijuana. See how many friends that makes you.

(Pro tip: I only drink coffee prior to extremely physical exerting events like motorcycle races or personal record lift sessions. I used to ramble on and on to colleagues about how useful caffeine is as a temporary energy boosting drug as long as it isn't abused. Guess how many people I pissed off? Everyone that drank coffee on a daily basis.)

[hydralus]

.......word of advice, you will not make any friends by projecting your ego and values onto others.

What you just said is applicable to caffeine. You wanna piss off some people? Tell them caffeine is a drug and comparable to marijuana. See how many friends that makes you.

Maybe if they drank less caffeine they'd be more chill.

[JackHatchet]

.......word of advice, you will not make any friends by projecting your ego and values onto others.

What you just said is applicable to caffeine. You wanna piss off some people? Tell them caffeine is a drug and comparable to marijuana. See how many friends that makes you.

(Pro tip: I only drink coffee prior to extremely physical exerting events like motorcycle races or personal record lift sessions. I used to ramble on and on to colleagues about how useful caffeine is as a temporary energy boosting drug as long as it isn't abused. Guess how many people I pissed off? Everyone that drank coffee on a daily basis.)

It's not an ego. I'm asking that people don't lie and don't make up fake news. Caffeine is a drug. And anyone who thinks it's not is just an idiot. You shouldn't coddle idiots who want to make up their own definitions for stuff. Don't encourage lying for the sake of your ego by keeping friends.

[HyoMinPark]

I'm asking that people don't lie and don't make up fake news.

People are going to lie on the Internet. Only in a perfect world would they not. You may have a moral high ground not to, but not everyone shares that. Hence why you research and discern truths instead of just taking things at face value. Inb4 I am accused of encouraging lying, I am not. Just saying that this isn't a perfect world, and people are going to do it regardless of what you ask.

[Lynart]

People are going to lie on the Internet. Only in a perfect world would they not. You may have a moral high ground not to, but not everyone shares that. Hence why you research and discern truths instead of just taking things at face value. Inb4 I am accused of encouraging lying, I am not. Just saying that this isn't a perfect world, and people are going to do it regardless of what you ask.

...it's fine really. I don't see any need to condemn or try to convince the quoted. There are far more people like the quoted than you and I; our empathetic mindset gives a massive advantage in every social situation; this is especially true for work place politics (aka. getting more monies.)

Besides, pointing out someone's flaw will do nothing but force them to strengthen their position. At best it assuages our egos because we're seeing something they don't and are pointing it out.

[hydralus]

...it's fine really. I don't see any need to condemn or try to convince the quoted. There are far more people like the quoted than you and I; our empathetic mindset gives a massive advantage in every social situation; this is especially true for work place politics (aka. getting more monies.)

Besides, pointing out someone's flaw will do nothing but force them to strengthen their position. At best it assuages our egos because we're seeing something they don't and are pointing it out.

You sound like a robot or an alien experiencing humanity in the third person where the importance of social acceptance is far greater than any point to be made.

[Lynart]

You sound like a robot or an alien experiencing humanity in the third person where the importance of social acceptance is far greater than any point to be made.

Thank you. It means I've fixed some of my old judgmental problems and have ascended =P

[KisaiTenshi]

It's not an ego. I'm asking that people don't lie and don't make up fake news. Caffeine is a drug. And anyone who thinks it's not is just an idiot. You shouldn't coddle idiots who want to make up their own definitions for stuff. Don't encourage lying for the sake of your ego by keeping friends.

Of course doing so doesn't earn any friends because "You're ruining their fun" by taking the moral high ground and showing them a mirror where they're ugly. People break rules because they know the rules are not enforced. That is different from breaking rules because the rules are unjust (Eg rules made to prevent peaceful protest, journalism or "bedroom behavior".) Who really cares about what you do in your own private space as long as you don't bring someone else into it against their will.

And that is why graphical mods and third party tools are a problem, it breaks rules set by the software developer to ensure people play nice and fairly, they affect others because no consent is needed to operate them, and yet the very nature of the MMO game requires consent at all times. People go "oh it's only client sided", but it's not the second you post anything online that is a result of those mods or tools.

People going "it's only pixels" are the same people who complain about their identity being stolen after oversharing on facebook. Yeah, it's only pixels when you're not the victim.

That game avatar might be an extension of someone's personality, but people do put an important attachment on that identity, and if someone starts posting "Lala's gone Loli" pics using players who did not consent to it, then that person is no different than the perv who takes upskirt shots at the mall using the same logic of "if you don't know it exists, then it doesn't exist."

[KaivaC]

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Oh...you're back.

So, tell me: if I decided to go for a mod that allows Kaiva to be barefoot, who exactly does that affect aside from me?