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    Would it really have been so hard to say "the Mabinogi black robe incident" from the start? It's also dubious how the two are related. You also haven't answered what the second MMO is either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dualgunner View Post
    Would it really have been so hard to say "the Mabinogi black robe incident" from the start? It's also dubious how the two are related. You also haven't answered what the second MMO is either.
    That's because I want you to find the threads that discuss the hacking, and not link to them.

    Wizardy's shutdown was shutdown by Sony seeing their P2W model destroyed by similar issues.

    FFXIV doesn't have any client-ended security tools to defeat, so people seem to justify their modding because the game client doesn't have protection. Where as the tools that enable modding in Mabinogi and Wizardry, were designed to defeat the protection measures, and the result was that the players doing the "QoL" mods in exactly the same fashion people use ACT in FFXIV, let the botters and packet hackers in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi View Post
    FFXIV doesn't have any client-ended security tools to defeat, so people seem to justify their modding because the game client doesn't have protection. Where as the tools that enable modding in Mabinogi and Wizardry, were designed to defeat the protection measures, and the result was that the players doing the "QoL" mods in exactly the same fashion people use ACT in FFXIV, let the botters and packet hackers in.

    Ok this I understand.



    BUT


    Why doesn't SE do anything?



    Example: world first ultimate all the top statics competing against each other. Each and every one of them was 'hacking' (according to YOUR terms) using the DPS meter. Yoshi P and others of the team were watching the streams every one of those streams had visually DPS meter windows in them.

    Yoshi and his team were just smiling and congratulating the worlds first to down it.


    Why didn't they ban all those players that were 'hacking' abusing the rules and do as they please?


    Why make rules if they don't enforce them.




    If people are getting banned by this I'll be the first one to remove the DPS meter, but nobody is so I'm just using this little meter and be quiet about it, it shows my DPS and that's all I care about.
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    Letter from the Producer LIVE Part IX Q&A Summary (10/30/2013)
    Q: Will there be any maintenance fees or other costs for housing, besides the cost of the land and house?
    A: In older MMOs, such as Ultima Online, there was a house maintenance fee you had to pay weekly, but in FFXIV: ARR we decided against this system. Similarly, these older MMOs also had a system where your house would break down if you didn’t log in after a while in order to have you continue your subscription, but this is a thing of the past and we won't have any system like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fhaerron View Post
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    I 100% agree.

    If they go after clothing thing, they have to go after others and I know from how many people kept making parser topics and those topics huge just imagine if all of them decided to use it.
    just imagine if they did crack down and half of every server were banned that would be destruction of FFXIV some would come back some would quit to not do progress anymore.

    tons of money down drain if you take care of one you have to take care of them all.

    Just imagine the chaos.
    losing housing.
    millions of gil
    crafting jobs all gone
    cant get back into servers they are full
    names lost
    if you were leader of FC or LS's gone.

    yeah I don't think people would come back.

    Lets be more realistic, lets say they did begin banning, it could cause friendships to end, you don't know if friends use stuff and could be long time friends wonder what they would think if they found out this topic was reason they were banned think they would forgive I don't think they would just a thought and my opinion.

    I say think before you leap.
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