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  1. #331
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    Indeed, but it most certainly isn't writing to the game client's memory which was what was implied.
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  2. #332
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sebazy View Post
    Indeed, but it most certainly isn't writing to the game client's memory which was what was implied.
    The ACT plugins can read and write to the game memory, just because the FFXIV plugin doesn't do it, doesn't mean another plugin can't import data from the FFXIV plugin to write back.

    Likewise, there is no way to get consent from other players that the parser is being used against, nor is there a way to block people from parsing you. If these "battle logs" type of programs wanted to be legit, they would do nothing but write the player's own combat activity and ignore everything else.
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  3. #333
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    It's mighty funny how someone managed to link the original post together with parsers. It's even funnier how those who are either against parsers or ACT tend to be the ones who don't raid or don't parse. Mighty convenient how that works.
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  4. #334
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    Quote Originally Posted by KaivaC View Post
    It's even funnier how those who are either against parsers or ACT tend to be the ones who don't raid or don't parse.
    The entire concept of being "against parsing" is absolutely ridiculous. Your in game performance is public. I can scroll through the chat log in game and read the exact same information that a parser sees. If you don't want your in game performance to be public, Don't play a public game.

    Quote Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi View Post
    Likewise, there is no way to get consent from other players that the parser is being used against, nor is there a way to block people from parsing you.
    You gave your consent for me to monitor your performance when you joined my group. In my group, my success relies in part on your ability to perform. If you aren't okay with that, there are 13+ other solo Final Fantasy games for you to go play. This level of nonsense is pathetic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calladan View Post
    The entire concept of being "against parsing" is absolutely ridiculous. Your in game performance is public. I can scroll through the chat log in game and read the exact same information that a parser sees. If you don't want your in game performance to be public, Don't play a public game.
    ^ Basically this.
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  6. #336
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    Quote Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi View Post
    ACT use is the easiest low-hanging fruit they can go after...
    Days since Kisai took an unrelated thread and turned it into ACT bashing: 1 0
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    Last edited by Calladan; 05-13-2018 at 11:28 PM.

  7. #337
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calladan View Post
    You gave your consent for me to monitor your performance when you joined my group. In my group, my success relies in part on your ability to perform. If you aren't okay with that, there are 13+ other solo Final Fantasy games for you to go play. This level of nonsense is pathetic.
    Nonsense. You joined a multiplayer game, with terms of service among other things prohibits third party tools, data mining, and harassment. You are not entitled to ignore the rules while others abide by them.
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  8. #338
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    Quote Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi View Post
    Nonsense. You joined a multiplayer game, with terms of service among other things prohibits third party tools, data mining, and harassment. You are not entitled to ignore the rules while others abide by them.
    So if I judge your performance solely on what I see in the chat log thats okay? I highly doubt it. Also, the terms of service on these forums prohibit harassment, but you take every opportunity to break them by harassing people who use parsers, so don't you dare claim you're abiding by the rules.
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  9. #339
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    Quote Originally Posted by Usho View Post
    Does he honestly think that switching from female to male will make a difference? A lot of people (including myself) love the male body. SE did a good job with male character models (especially miqote, roe and hyur midlander males). Tell him not to be surprised if someone uses a mod to mod his male character! xD
    Well perhaps you and like 90% of ppl may not care which is fine. It\\'s a forum so therefore anyone can express their opinion. I\\'m not saying all modders are horrible ppl or perverts. I don\\'t feel comfortable with ppl having a tool to make anyone\\'s character(s) naked with the possibility of making an existing problem worse. It sucks that you can\\'t play a game to have fun and mind your own business without having someone try to make unwanted advances. I feel that the wrong ppl having that tool can create problems for ppl just trying to enjoy the game.
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  10. #340
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calladan View Post
    So if I judge your performance solely on what I see in the chat log thats okay? I highly doubt it. Also, the terms of service on these forums prohibit harassment, but you take every opportunity to break them by harassing people who use parsers, so don't you dare claim you're abiding by the rules.
    Oh please. Everyone who uses ACT does not get to cry victim. Everyone who uses mods, does not get to cry victim. If you know you are breaking the rules, you lost the moral high ground. If someone reports you for harassment, you lose. You are on the official forums, it's like bragging about where you stashed the bodies to a murder and it then crying that it shouldn't count because the cops didn't know about it until now.
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