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    ClaireWinchester's Avatar
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    Ppl can use mods all they want. They should not use it to take pictures of other people's characters to upload naked, and they shouldn't approach people harassing them by something they were not aware. I didn't know this was even a thing. I have nephews that are minors, and I would hate for a pervert to approach them. The game is not Pornhub or anything like that. My nephew felt uncomfortable and confused getting hit on. So now with this being a thing it really won't make things any better.
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    Vidu Moriquendi
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClaireWinchester View Post
    Ppl can use mods all they want. They should not use it to take pictures of other people's characters to upload naked, and they shouldn't approach people harassing them by something they were not aware. I didn't know this was even a thing. I have nephews that are minors, and I would hate for a pervert to approach them. The game is not Pornhub or anything like that. My nephew felt uncomfortable and confused getting hit on. So now with this being a thing it really won't make things any better.
    Believe it or not, I can relate to that - I'm female and I started this game about 5 years ago playing a male character. Part of the reason to pick a male instead of a female was to avoid getting weird messages and being hit on. And I've been getting at least a few creepy messages since I switched to a FemRoe about 3 years ago. It sucks, it really does.

    ...when people are doing it to/with our people. Dressing (and moding) their own game and character in that way is, frankly, their buisness. As long as they mind theirs (aka: not uploading harrassing/naked pictures of peoples characters without their consent or sending inappropriate messages), everyone else should mind their own aswell. No need to throw a whole bunch of people under the bus when there is a way to deal with the problem: Report any form of harrassment and have the GMs deal with it.

    What you're doing here might be with the right intention, but with an aweful approach. Because you're confusing two things: Those mods and people who abuse them.
    Now you're lumping harrassment of a whole different type into aswell - without even knowing wether or not the person who sent weird messages to your nephew was using any mods or not. Believe me: those texts are their own story and one that should be reported, no doubt about that. They are their own problem though and they will most likely continue to be, even if you take away the option for everyone to alter the appearance of their game on their own computer. Even if its just something like changing a hairstyle.

    The solution to your problem is to report anyone who is harrassing you (in some cases, as much as it pains me to say that: grow a thicker skin - while this form of harrassment shouldnt be tolerated, you should also not let it get to you) - not to ban mods. Because dont fool yourself: If SE does that, they most likely wont be selective about it. It would mean to take a lot of most likely great stuff away from people who enjoy it, while gaining little regarding the matters you're concerned about.
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    Hyomin Park
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClaireWinchester View Post
    Ppl can use mods all they want. They should not use it to take pictures of other people's characters to upload naked, and they shouldn't approach people harassing them by something they were not aware. I didn't know this was even a thing. I have nephews that are minors, and I would hate for a pervert to approach them. The game is not Pornhub or anything like that. My nephew felt uncomfortable and confused getting hit on. So now with this being a thing it really won't make things any better.
    The issue I see with this post is that you’re acting like this is some common occurrence that people just take screenshots of other individuals’ characters in the nude and start harassing them with said screens—in the case of the OP, this hasn’t even been proven to be true; they made no mention of (prior to this thread) even being harassed by such things. Instead, it sounded like they heard about mods, dived into the Discord for them, got scared that they or other people are going to suddenly be targeted by a bunch of predators, and started a crusade (much like how the individual on Tumblr started theirs, but then again, it is Tumblr). I asked them if this had ever happened to them (and I believe a few others did as well), and they have never answered.

    Modders mod for the sake of their own characters, not to see other characters naked. There are obviously skeevy/shady individuals in every community (note how I said every community, not just the modding community), so you deal with them as appropriate: report them, blacklist them, and then move on. You speak of perverts, but perverts don’t have to mod to still be perverts. Just saying.

    Quote Originally Posted by JackHatchet View Post
    It's amazing how vivid opinions people have about avatars. Whether it's for or against them. Some people think avatars are throw-away valueless constructs and others feel like they're a part of their personality.
    Telling someone “you are not your character, and they are not you” isn’t the same as acting like your avatar is just a throwaway, valueless construct. My character is extremely dear to me, but I am cognizant enough to realize that she and I are not the same, and thereby an image of her naked is most definitely not the same as an image of myself naked (unless I suddenly became a Warrior of Light/Slayer of Eikons with cat ears and a tail overnight—in which case, ugh, I’m far to lazy for this kind of life).

    Quote Originally Posted by JackHatchet View Post
    And the bigger the fire gets--the more Square-Enix will notice it. And they'll nuke the modding community to put that fire out. So can we try to agree and move on?
    The only way SE could actually identify modders if is they install a client-side detector that can detect when game files are read/modified. This would also get rid of ACT and ReShade, and, at that point, SE would be hurting their bottom line.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
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    i doubt very much this is what did happen more like the OP tough people would watch at him/her and take pic like if anyone would care of his character seriusly thats like not taking a lift cause it could fall down, Then dont breath cause you could breath in some toxic gasses i wanna see where this logic lead to
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