Mod users in FFXIV are getting out of control

[DreadRabbit]

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I am not personally conflating my character as me. I 100% agree that your character isn't you. Got that. I don't personally care that this mod exists. I do care about how outright dismissive and rude some folks have been (not you, Bourne, and Tsunenori among a few others, you guys have been respectful).

However where we're going to have to agree to disagree is that I find it's completely hypocritical for people to tell others that they shouldn't care about how their avatar is presented, yet get angry and defensive at the thought that how they edit their character might be taken away if SE were to pursue something. That's not different at all from others getting angry that their character is seen in a way they don't want. People using the mod care if their character can be naked. Ergo, the pixels matter to them, and it's silly to tell others that they don't matter. That's all I'm getting at on that particular point, and I'm aware I'm part of the minority in this thread that thinks that.

Well technically they don't need consent from players, player own no rights to characters/items it all belongs to/is property of SE. So if wanted get consent only one they'd have ask is SE.

Considering that graphical mods are against the ToS SE technically already did: they told you no. It's just not enforced (because as many have said, how can you enforce it unless you blatantly wave it in their faces?).

[Driavna]

However where we're going to have to agree to disagree is that I find it's completely hypocritical for people to tell others that they shouldn't care about how their avatar is presented, yet get angry and defensive at the thought that how they edit their character might be taken away if SE were to pursue something. That's not different at all from others getting angry that their character is seen in a way they don't want. People using the mod care if their character can be naked. Ergo, the pixels matter to them, and it's silly to tell others that they don't matter. That's all I'm getting at on that particular point, and I'm aware I'm part of the minority in this thread that thinks that.

You are not alone, I totally agree with you. The dissonance between what some people said and what they do is also strong.

[HyoMinPark]

However where we're going to have to agree to disagree is that I find it's completely hypocritical for people to tell others that they shouldn't care about how their avatar is presented, yet get angry and defensive at the thought that how they edit their character might be taken away if SE were to pursue something.

My issue is actually that people want to punish the majority because a couple people are being twats about the whole ordeal. I’m very much against pushing the majority just because a few cannot act like mature individuals.

I’m also against the blatant fear-mongering that “anti-modders” are boasting—that people should “be careful” about the glamours they wear, that they should “be careful” when out and about. There is no need for this overt caution: the majority of modders do not care about other toons’ appearances. Aside from the fact that the modding community is probably the minority of players in this game. I’d wager that most do not know about mods, cannot use them, or don’t even care to. But they aren’t getting all up in arms because someone may see their character naked.