Mod users in FFXIV are getting out of control

[RiyahArp]

I think the important distinction here is that the yelling is directed at the person behind the screen and not the character. The perving, however, can only ever be done to the character. No matter how many layers they peel off of your avatar, they will never ever see you naked..

This is true, but that doesn't mean a character that you spend years playing with, maybe building up a backstory with, or making a lot of in game memories is just this blank thing that has nothing to do with the player and cannot be violated in any form or manner. If someone instead did a mod which relied on gore and not nudity, it's still the same too, we aren't really meeting a violent death.

IDk, i guess it's just two different mindsets. I just wish people wont beat too hard on the OP for fear of their mods.

I don't have a huge opinion on either side, but I do want to ask a question as I do see this alot. What would you guys do if someone came - ingame- and stood behind or infront of your character in a pose that looks like it's humping you? Would you stand there or run off or wouldn't care? Yes it's just pixels but alot of people move cause it's abit off putting to see that. I would move myself and I don't think of the character as me either. But I'm just asking what would you do. I'm not defending op btw, just a question I thought up. As I do see alot of that ingame, hell I've seen people get as mad as to yell at the person coming up close to them.

Heh, yeah the "in my country we do not have this thing called personal space" people. Bonus points if you see them spin on their axis while they use first person view or spam emotes. I move quickly, sometimes even porting zones if its in limsa.
Oh, I move.

I know that there are skeevy and awful people out there; I also speak from experience. Here’s what I do: I just don’t let it bother me; I don’t concern myself with what people see on their screen. I also am well aware of the fact that my character is not me in real life; there is a difference in lewd tells/screens directed at my character, and lewd comments/photographs of myself in real life. If someone were to contact me with lewd /tells or sent me lewd screenshots of my character, I would just ignore them, report them if I felt like it, and blacklist them. I don’t start a crusade about it; I also don’t just assume that everyone is like that person. I’m well aware not everyone has innocent intentions, but letting a harasser have power over you—or know that they have power over you—is what lets them win. So I shrug it off.

It..well, it can be more complicated than that.

I remember times when a harasser would try to get people to actually tell the person harassed to avoid the blacklist, dragging more people into it and constantly raising the stakes and the amount of power you need to use. And a lot of people in the scene can be incredibly charming or charismatic, and then it happens and everything goes south. I think the worst experience i ever had was someone with borderline personality disorder literally turning the entire guild i was in against me and wearing people down by sheer madness. It depends on the person, but yeah, you generally are not so rational after a major issue; you simply can't be, because you know how high the stakes are sometimes. I wonder if OP has suffered anything to have this reaction. Like sometimes it can be overreaction, but sometimes sheer safety reflex.

I'm just not sure it's worth dedicating time and development resources that already seem to be spread pretty thin to a war on modding that probably won't be won anyway. You can look at other MMOs and see the fruits of that labor. I'm normally in favor of a grander cultural change around these things than targeting the tools people use, which is why I mentioned consent being key here. That takes time though. I don't know, Square-Enix will do whatever they feel is best and if the fervor around the mods is enough that they feel inclined to step in and change things then that's what'll happen.

Kind of a problem with technology I guess, it seems to amplify chaos a lot more than order. I don't think they could even address modding like that; they had a decade to do so in ffxi.

[HyoMinPark]

It..well, it can be more complicated than that.

I remember times when a harasser would try to get people to actually tell the person harassed to avoid the blacklist, dragging more people into it and constantly raising the stakes and the amount of power you need to use. And a lot of people in the scene can be incredibly charming or charismatic, and then it happens and everything goes south. I think the worst experience i ever had was someone with borderline personality disorder literally turning the entire guild i was in against me and wearing people down by sheer madness. It depends on the person, but yeah, you generally are not so rational after a major issue; you simply can't be, because you know how high the stakes are sometimes. I wonder if OP has suffered anything to have this reaction. Like sometimes it can be overreaction, but sometimes sheer safety reflex.

Immediately after a traumatic experience, no, you are usually not that rational. I speak from experience. But you gain rationality over time; you gain the ability to discern when things truly are “going south”. You cannot live in a constant fear that “[event] happened to me before; it will surely happen to me again, so I must always be on my guard” or “I met bad people before; I will surely meet them again, so I should protect myself/I should assume everyone is like that/I should trust no one”. Because, again, my main issue with the OP is that they are generalizing, and spreading fear where there is no need to spread it. The same for the individuals that got all up in arms about this on Tumblr.

I’m not saying that people should not be cautious; I am saying that they should stop letting things control them—their reactions, their behavior, the way they live. I’ve had terrible things happen to me in real-life—not in this game. I don’t let them control me because it is far too exhausting to live that way.