Mod users in FFXIV are getting out of control

[Nav_Fae]

And?

What abuse is being shown here? No offense, but this actually adds credence to people who claim you're being too sensitive. The person is simply saying if SE bans mods, people who are jerks will still be jerks. And she isn't wrong. Look at parsers. More often than not, it's the... lesser skilled players complaining about low DPS and berating everyone.

I don't know, I think I am handling myself pretty well the way I keep being disrespected and attacked and called "insensitive" on this thread. The bottom line is, I called the mod community out on the forums and they are not happy about it. And they are free to not be happy about it, but I don't deserve the treatment I am getting. I have already blocked and reported 3 different people in-game for trying to have a "chat" with me about why I am wrong for making this thread.

One guy even insisted and demanded that I delete all my forum posts and apologize to the entire community for trying to take away their mods.

[KageTokage]

If these mods weren't client-side only, then yeah they'd bug me, but I don't really care otherwise.

Realistically though, there isn't any way to stop them short of having XIV somehow block foreign processes from interacting with the client. This would kill bots too, so I'd honestly welcome it even if parsers got axed in the process.

[GetFoesReqd]

You are not a dragon girl, you only play one on TV. You are not your character, and you also bear no physical resemblance to it, unless youre that one guy from the Hyur thread that perfectly and amazingly duplicated himself. Therefore, as no harassment is occurring to a real person, only an imaginary and constructed individual made with tools provided by SE for entertainment purposes and coming part and parcel with 100% IRL anonymity, you are not being harassed. Your character is. Even if people takes nudes of her and spam them all over tumblr or whatever, it does not, in truth, involve you. It involves a cookie cutter nude skin over a cookie cutter au ra body that will look exactly the same as every single other au ra body with that mod on, completely removing the last inkling of the idea that this could be a personal attack.

Your concern is important to you, but it is unfounded in the long run. Therefore the solution should be one YOU create WITHOUT affecting a system that is not actually allowing harassment of you, but rather harassment of a created character with no consciousness, no soul, and very little individuality. I do not say this to be rude, but you do probably need to just accept this and deal with it. No one is going to harass you with nudes of your own character, and moreso, they wouldn't even need your character to do it. All they would have to do is recreate your appearance, take screenshots with the mod on, and lie that its you. You cannot possibly think it fair to remove client side mods because of so many things that the devs cannot control, and indeed, show no desire to control. Sorry, but it is not the big deal you're making it to be, to the vast majority. Most people do not even use these mods to begin with, but even if they did, as long as you do not, then you are not affected.

If you are so afraid someone is looking at your character naked, then realize that if they are, that speaks of them, not of you. You're not perving, they are. And you are not even truly involved in it. If someone creeps on you blacklist them. And I still wonder at how someone would harass you at images of your own naked avatar without you clicking some manner of link or something that you could just NOT click. You can leave discords. All the tools you need are at your hand. There is absolutely no need to ban these client side mods, if that were even possible.

[Asiragan]

In my opinion, modding is fine. Actually, I like the idea of people tweaking some game textures to take more "control" over the personnalisation of their character.

Where I'm not fine, it's when it come to harassment. We all have different sensibility towards it, some will just shrug it off while other will take offense. I think it really depend on how deeply you immerse yourself in the game. And on that point, I can understand why OP is worried about it.

To me, modding is a chance as a PC player, and it's great that SE tolerate it. But if people start to complain, they will take action one way or an other and it will come as a real disappointment for a lot of people.

Be responsible and only take NSFW pictures of your own character and other who are fine with it, if you want to post it on a social media. We have nothing to gain, as a community, by defending this kind of behavior.

[ChocoFeru]

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The more you care about people using mods, the more power you're giving them.
The worst thing you can do to a harasser is to give him attention. That encourages them and gives them some meaning.

Just ignore it, report if it happens ingame, blacklist elsewhere. The person they're taking screenshots from is not you, but a modded/fake version.

Also, I think devs can't solve this problem unless they invest a los of money to change the client, and that would take the money needed to make a new expansion, I believe.

[TaranTatsuuchi]

Haven't been looking too deeply into this type of harassment...



But I do recall seeing mention of it online somewhere.
As I recall...

Someone had a link in their ffxiv description linking to an outside page of some sort with nude mods.
And something about harassing someone else with them...

IIRC, the GM's got involved, reprimanded them, and told them to remove the offending pictures or suffer further account action.




Not sure how accurate this is as I'm going off of memory from just coming across mention of it briefly.

[HyoMinPark]

But I do recall seeing mention of it online somewhere.
As I recall...

Someone had a link in their ffxiv description linking to an outside page of some sort with nude mods.
And something about harassing someone else with them...

Forgot to respond to this: I believe the situation you are thinking of, was of a player on one of the JP servers. They had a link to their Twitter in their Search Info in-game, which had pictures of their character in revealing outfits and “lewd”/“questionable” positions (the ones I saw were more awkward camera angles—think up-skirts). I’m assuming someone went to their profile, got upset about it, reported them, and then a GM contacted them in-game. As far as I am aware, they never harassed anyone with lewd screenshots of their characters; their Twitter was primarily composed of pictures of their own character.

[Zeonx]

Why would it be any different if someone posted an irl nude of me on their tumblr

Because it ain't you, its a fictional character with a fictional name that you pay for every month.
You are not unique people could make same model same clothing same name on another server would you still claim that it is you if you seen a picture?

If I was seen naked I wouldn't even care not like its me in rl.

Also by the way if this has went into real life why you going out and putting your info out there to begin with if so that falls on you......... you better know that person very well before you go and do that.

its a known fact unless you met the person and had a personal relationship best bet not to hand out info unless you are 100% positive its the right person.

I ain't saying you have but if you did tisk tisk.

[TheGrimace]

Does this mean modders can see my massive piece?! What a crime!!!

[Aerlana]

Your character is not you, even if i admit there is part of "you" in the character.


I am a man, i mainly play female. on game where i do RP, my characters are a part of me, part of my personnality and mind. BUT are not me... I am not a woman, but a man, proud of it. my character are most of time female... They cant be me.

Yes, those mods user can get some lewd eyes to your character. your CHARACTER. You have to clearly understand the difference. I dont say they are right to do. Just, you dont have to feel harassed or anything else.


To finish, SE does some warnings and ban due to modding (NSFW AND SFW modding) : https://twitter.com/EZ_Resanoca/status/989585639120097280?s=09
this was for SFW pictures, and they manage to link the twitter to the account.
The matter is... Lets say, i take one of those mods, so, if i see your character, i see it nude, with numerous piercing all more perv than the others. BUT... i never put my screens online, and speak about it to nobody. in the state of the game now, SE cant know if i mod or not.

You scare about how modders could see your character mainly because you know it exists also. Probably, some saw you in perv outfit before you saw the first screen of modding on instagram or anywhere else.

I dont say "stupid, stop complaining" just, understand that the best way to live better is just... forget it exists. Dont care about it. SE already try to do against this (and... it is a lost war for them)