Mod users in FFXIV are getting out of control

[micropanther7]

A large majority of people who use these mods don’t care about what your toon looks like, they care about what their toon looks like for their enjoyment. Mods are against TOS so is reshade and ACT. Don’t like the things don’t use them, otherwise get over it it’s a game not like they are creeping on you irl. Ps. The nude mod isn’t new it’s been around for a long time.

The first part of Malora's post holds true, to be honest OP it's something that's beyond your control and we have to just deal with it, it's just part of human nature, I do understand why it would make someone uncomfortable... so you have my sympathies there. I wouldn't give a flying fart if it was just their character, but if it's others..ah well what can you do? It's not like you're gonna know I was fishing on my Roe, in the middle of a lake in Yanxia, when I get a lala come flying down and just friend request me... was I sitting there stark naked on their end?! That is funny as hell though tbh XDXD

[ShadowHunterrX]

So being naked is a offended thing now in irl and ingame ? Some have coconuts and some have a frankfurter. Who cares !

People are way to fast offended these days and it's not making the world a happier place.

[Remus]

Considering that OP is being harassed after this thread came out, well, yeah, it's understandable. Do explain how this is a 'lul' moment? I don't agree wholeheartedly with the OP, but I fail to see how somebody being harassed is worthy of laughter or implied ridicule. I know you certainly wouldn't enjoy it if players started harassing you every time you logged in.

If people were harassing me, I'd hide too.

Honestly it's a reasonable reaction since people started (allegedly, but I have no reason to disbelieve atm) harassing OP in game because of this thread.

If what they say is true they are being harassed in-game that sucks. I don't want to sound rude but making a topic on this subject and the way OP worded their post I'm not really surprised it happened? People need to realise they are on the internet, the Internet isn't some form of safe space where nothing can happen. When you put a message out on a PUBLIC forum where anyone can see it, there is a chance people will find it silly and start harassing them for it. If you have been on the internet long enough and played MMOs you would know mods like this have always been a thing. Same way they are a thing in single player games... (just go look at skyrim mods).

It is unfortunate they are getting harassed for this post, but personally I think they somewhat had it coming knowing how people can be with this subject. People need to think about what they say before actually posting it, the same way you need to think about what you say in real life before saying it. If they are being harassed in-game they can just blacklist and report them and move on. Just make sure to include what they have done (evidence).

Also do you know why I haven't been harassed? The reason is because I think about what I do before doing it. If you know there is a chance someone could harass you for what you did (like a this post for example) then don't freaking do it. There are multiple things I could talk about but they could lead to harassment potentially so I keep them to myself it's not hard. I just hope they have learned their lesson on this and maybe try to think more about what they say on the internet which anyone using it can read this. Also if someone was harassing me when I logged in do you know what I would do? Report and ignore them... I AFK most of the time anyway so things like that don't really faze me because I know it's just a game and if people want to waste time with that...then that's their own business, I will continue watching twitch streams on my other monitor while you do your silliness.

You would most likely disagree with what I said but hey that's life not everyone agrees with every single thing you say.

[KaivaC]

If what they say is true they are being harassed in-game...

Again, while I don't agree with the OP about what they posted, I don't believe that they are deserving of the harassment simply because of their post. Nor do I necessarily agree with the notion that they should've expected it. I've posted some wild things on the forums before - that doesn't mean I expect to get harassed in-game, and for the most part, I have not. Just because it's the Internet doesn't give people the right to act like complete jerks just because they can do it. And anybody who goes about this and says 'well, the OP deserved it for making the post in the first place' or 'it's the Internet, what did they expect' is almost as bad as those doing the harassing in the first place.

Again, I don't agree with the OP. But in-game harassment should never be acceptable, nor should people just go 'it should've been expected'. Just because you do things a certain way doesn't mean that everybody else will react in the same manner.

[Esp]

Well, the good thing is, with that mod, you can also just disable the nudity option entirely: so you keep your small clothes, but you don’t have perma-sandals. Or so a little birdie told me~.

Oh, that's even better.

Please do me a favor and pet that little birdie for the nice info.

[Popotato]

I think OP at this point REALLY should just put the harassing tells into the first post so people understand the real core of the issue. It's not the mods, it's the harassment that has occurred because of the mods.

OP's original plight of wanting to get rid of mods altogether is silly, no denying that. Mods offer minor but cool experiences to the game that the game itself doesn't deliver on. There's no reason to take that away from players. But harassment as a result of people abusing these mods is a very valid thing to feel uncomfortable about, and really should be the main focus here.

[Driavna]

It's not the mods, it's the harassment that has occurred because of the mods.

No, a mod can't do nothing. The harassment occurs because stupidity knows no bounds and is going to happen no matter what. Block, report and move on with your life.

Anyway, I also wanted to add something: the "is just pixels" argument is a weak one that also works against you. If it's just pixel why bother to use mods at all? What's the point of adding certain stuff to make it "more real"? *Wink Wink* I'm really attached to my character and I prefer that people see her the same way I do and the idea of people using mods and altering that is not something I like. But since there is nothing I can do about I just going to move on with my life.

[Dualgunner]

I think OP at this point REALLY should just put the harassing tells into the first post so people understand the real core of the issue.

Well, that's up to OP and deciding the direction they want to take with this thread. You yourself admit that the thread's original purpose is silly; all the outrage and the silly drama about "Oh it's like everybody around me has X-Ray eyes!" has only made any real issues related to mod-based harassment worse, because less people take them seriously.

Besides which, harassment is harassment is harassment. Instead of drawing the line in the sand on mods, why not a thread asking for stricter harassment responses, or better responses on harassment reporting? Because ingame chat, ingame emotes, ingame dungeons, ingame pvp, parsers, mods, and a whole host of other things are potential sources for harassment.

Anyway, I also wanted to add something: the "is just pixels" argument is a weak one that also works against you. If it's just pixel why bother to use mods at all? What's the point of adding certain stuff to make it "more real"? *Wink Wink*

People mod for all sorts of reasons other than to make things "more real". They mod tails so that people can play as whatever animal race they want. They mod outfits to fit their particular taste in clothing and apparel design. They mod weapons because there are particular things about a weapon they'd like changed.

The other thing is, I consider there to be a large difference between telling someone "It's just pixels" when they're actually afraid of their character being seen naked, and telling someone "It's just pixels" when they take a mod to "dye" something that in game is undyeable.

I'm really attached to my character and I prefer that people see her the same way I do and the idea of people using mods and altering that is not something I like. But since there is nothing I can do about I just going to move on with my life.

Probably the smartest thing anyone can do regarding this tbh. While I have a different outlook on things than you, perhaps because as a MCH I see a different view of my character and their weapon than everyone else in the game anyway (Gauss Barrel is off), I respect that you feel differently about it.

[Lollerblades]

If SE sees it as a real issue. They could always force a client side data check every few days, where it would detect a mod on the file and redown load the original. But there is no real fix. As you said its all client side.

[Rhus]

I will offer my apologies to the OP. I'm sorry you felt so harassed by certain individuals following this post you had to completely change your character.
Nobody should ever feel that way or have to do that.It's your game, your character and you should be able to play it as and how you wish. Some may not agree with certain aspects but I'd hate to feel like my views on here ever had me have to change anything. Nobody deserves that.
I gather that is the issue. Less so the mods, afterall I'd say nobody would ever know people can see your character naked unless they tell you. So on that I'm less fussed about it but if people were whispering me about how they were using mods on my character and being a pain, yea. Not cool.