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  1. #11
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    Pastahnak's Avatar
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    Pastahnak Popotonak
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    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...61#post4665361

    But y'all keep on trying to find reasons the op would be fibbing smh
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    Vidu Moriquendi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeonx View Post
    I don't get why people defend these type of people and say move on I'll just report next time this way they get in trouble.

    its a form of harassment when you laugh you are doing wrong especially when you wipe because some guy decides to screw you near the end of the fight and we gotta fight the boss all over again.
    Then report them for harrassment.
    The skill isnt the problem, the behaviour is. And I'm not defending troll-behaviour I'm defending the skill being the way it is because when used properly it has its value.
    If you want to make everything anti-toll-proff we wouldnt see the end of changes... so instead of "fixing" the skill, we need to fix peoples attitude - since they most likely cant really be reasoned with, a report is your way to go here.

    ...a report and afterwards letting the matter go.
    Rescue isnt the problem, trolling is. But you wont fix that by making everything troll-proof, since that would turn the game pretty boring, pretty quickly.
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  3. #13
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    I'd be all for a toggle for yourself to allow rescue to work on you or not, that way if ur doing casual stuff and don't want to be trolled u have the option where people doing hardcore content have the option to use it legitimately. I haven't encountered someone using rescue to troll me or someone else but I can very clearly see how someone can be trolled with it. I think I even remember a MrHappy video with the healers playing a game to see who could pull happy into the most instakill mechanics with rescue.
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  4. #14
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    I faintly remember there was a -disablehelp command in a game like... was it DOTA2? Maybe we could use a similar string or feature in FFXIV to tackle the problem. If it's codable properly in the end, is the other question.
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    Oh no, people are using rescue for funny things.

    OP is making stuff up.
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  6. #16
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    Kaldea Sahaline
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    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    I'm not sure how failing to LB could wipe the group unless everyone was dead and a healer was trying to healer LB or if an add needed to be killed quickly by a DPS LB.

    It wouldn't surprise me if some people are so paranoid about bad parses that they'd rather force a wipe then have someone upload a mediocre parse, though...
    Nobody cares about 24 man raid parses. It's just someone trolling. It's not even really actionable either so I'm not confident a report would even do anything.
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  7. #17
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    Trials Roullete.

    Get put into Titan (Hard)

    Healer uses Rescue to pull me right to the edge of the arena just before the boss causes that part of the arena to collapse, causing us both to fall off.
    One tank and one healer down, neither can be raised because that's how falling off in Titan works, and the other tank has no idea what he's doing...

    It ends in a wipe.
    Then i get yelled at for falling off
    "OMG RETARD TANK DON'T FALL!"
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  8. #18
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    Mihovil Jollasch
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    Also, a question: If this was a such an ongoing issue...why was no one brave enough to issue a vote kick? :x

    Before reporting, that would be the most logical thing to do. If anything, I remember I had someone do that to me and the GM literally said "players are able to use the votekick". Meaning that they probably dont see this worth their time
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  9. #19
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeonx View Post
    Well it wasn't being used for a good thing, I understand its a good thing but not the way they are doing it.
    its being used to troll one of the guys even laughed I could of GM'd him but I rather do it the nice way.

    as the skill is supposed to be in dangerous issues used that isn't a dangerous issue when boss needed to be killed then they do it for a laugh and die.

    If someone is Limit breaking its for a good reason not a bad reason.
    That is not true. Just because someone can LB, does not mean that they should LB. If someone uses an LB3 that is being reserved for an upcoming mechanic, or if it needs to be reserved for the healer because nearly everyone is dead, and the boss still has plenty of HP, then it is not a good thing. And in such a situation, you can best believe I am going to 'Rescue' my party from this players imminent mistake. Assuming I'm fast enough anyway.

    I have found that healers are more likely to misuse Rescue in 24-man and unsynced EX primals. IOW, content where people are just dicking around anyway. If it is happening in content that needs to be taken seriously, then that is what vote kick is for.
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    Tsenno Se'senovoto
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    Mateus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darric View Post
    I faintly remember there was a -disablehelp command in a game like... was it DOTA2? Maybe we could use a similar string or feature in FFXIV to tackle the problem. If it's codable properly in the end, is the other question.
    This is not something that needs to be done. The last thing healers need is for someone to disable the ability to be Rescued, especially with how many dps seem to think it's a game of how many vulnerability debuffs they can stack. After a while the only option left to the healer to keep a dps alive is to pull their ass out of mechanics. If anything I wish the CD on rescue was lower. I've been having a hell of a time with dps and tanks both eating mechanics in Hell's Lid that give debuffs and the only way to avoid wasting MP scraping them off the floor is to forcibly move them.
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