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    Misuse of magic.

    I don't know where to post this but lately doing the raids I noticed the skill Rescue being misused to pull someone doing the Limit break causing wipe.

    If a GM can see this please pass this along to the dev team or something,Make it where it cannot pull someone out of Limit break.

    I have notice this a few times, I am sure people think its funny like a gag but its very annoying.

    Thanks.

    Not sure this should be in feedback so I just posted it here.
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    Pulling someone out of a LB with Rescue is actually a good thing if it's done properly (That is, pulling only after you see that the LB cast has completed), as it cancels out the ridiculously long animation lock and allows the player to start moving and DPSing again immediately, which is more likely to save them then kill them if you're not pulling them into an AoE or something.

    If you see someone doing it specifically to cause problems, that's what vote kick is for.
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    Last edited by KageTokage; 05-08-2018 at 12:27 PM.

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    Well it wasn't being used for a good thing, I understand its a good thing but not the way they are doing it.
    its being used to troll one of the guys even laughed I could of GM'd him but I rather do it the nice way.

    as the skill is supposed to be in dangerous issues used that isn't a dangerous issue when boss needed to be killed then they do it for a laugh and die.

    If someone is Limit breaking its for a good reason not a bad reason.
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    Vidu Moriquendi
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    Was this a one time thing?

    If so: This seems like a classic case of "Just move on".
    Seriously. We established that even in that situation the skill can be used for good and bad and there is no need to take away the good because some people are jerks (or might used it to early).
    Its not game breaking in any way and while it can be annoying, it can also be used for good, so...

    If its not a one time thing, I'd have to ask: Is this a new trend on your data center? Or are you running with this person on a regular basis? If so... why?

    Limit breaks arent only used to kill the boss at 1% - most groups are using a LB in the middle of the fight in O7S. Or generally as soon as it hits 3 bars in Savage/EX-Primals in order to get a second LB (unless it needs to be saved for a certain mechanic).
    And sometimes you can time that very badly - thouught that now was a safe moment to do it and... there are AoEs appearing at your feet!
    Or you have a situation like in Chrysalis, where you want to use the LB on the aether-rift-thingie instead of on the boss. Cant tell you how many LBs Nabriales has eaten though, even after people were told not to use it on him...

    Do you want to enable tank-lb alltogether btw? Because except for a few fights, it never has to be used, so if a tank uses it and wastes the 3 bars...

    Seriously, in dungeons, 24-man raids and NM-primals this shouldnt make or break the run (most bosses are killed without the LB ever being touched, at least thats my experience).
    So the only content where this could matter is Savage - which you should do with a trustworthy group in the first place.

    Oh also: everyone except bard and maschnist has an ability to prevent Rescue alltogether - unless I'm terribly mistaken, your knockback-ability should also cancel out Rescue (I vaguely recall me trying that with Tempered Will and Rescue at the beginning of SB). So if its bothering you so much... pop Arms Length before you use your LB.
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    Nope few times, been happening in raids lately.

    Cousin even said it happen to him in the final fantasy tactics raid on the chariot boss. he didn't die but he was little ticked off about it, told the guy quit using rescue to troll. I told him it happened to me a few times also.

    You know this reminds me of how white mages also used fluid to troll back then also by using it over and over without having a reason but this pulling people while trying to fight bosses and stuff is out of hand I am hoping they will get tired of it but whatever.

    I don't get why people defend these type of people and say move on I'll just report next time this way they get in trouble.

    its a form of harassment when you laugh you are doing wrong especially when you wipe because some guy decides to screw you near the end of the fight and we gotta fight the boss all over again.
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    Last edited by Zeonx; 05-08-2018 at 06:54 PM.

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    Dont find it useful and i bet people will defend it anyways. Its usueless waste of space. only good if u want 100% optimize uptime on savage speedruns. (Insignificant by 1-2 gcd)Otw USELESS. People are able to move themselves.

    It happend to me in rabanastre on that skeleton dude before the last boss when he does that 8 thingy skill. Ik where to stand and i stood infront of him where it was safe and my co hlr pulled me off and i got hit at the same time when the boss moved. I got really frustrated cuse that was rather annoying and one time thing. Doesnt matter its one time thing. It was annoying delete it.

    Its rlly not biggie anyways.
    Healers should just do them and so should dpser.
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    Last edited by Johaandr; 05-09-2018 at 12:23 AM.

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    I'm not sure how failing to LB could wipe the group unless everyone was dead and a healer was trying to healer LB or if an add needed to be killed quickly by a DPS LB.

    It wouldn't surprise me if some people are so paranoid about bad parses that they'd rather force a wipe then have someone upload a mediocre parse, though...
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    Last edited by KageTokage; 05-08-2018 at 07:26 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johaandr View Post
    Dont find it useful and i bet people will defend it anyways. Its usueless waste of space. only good if u want 100% optimize uptime on savage speedruns. Otw USELESS. People are able to move themselves.

    It happend to me in rabanastre on that skeleton dude before the last boss when he does that 8 thingy skill. Ik where to stand and i stood infront of him where it was safe and my co hlr pulled me off and i got hit at the same time when the boss moved. I got really frustrated cuse that was rather annoying and one time thing. Doesnt matter its one time thing. It was annoying delete it.

    Its rlly not biggie anyways.
    Healers should just do them and so should dpser.
    The rescue has its uses..Like I uses it to pull people around in rabanastre at the first boss when people are ignoring to stack ontop of the water spouts...

    Its not a complete waste since you can actually use it to do what the name is suggesting LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akimori View Post
    The rescue has its uses..Like I uses it to pull people around in rabanastre at the first boss when people are ignoring to stack ontop of the water spouts...

    Its not a complete waste since you can actually use it to do what the name is suggesting LOL
    LOL for casual content ur a hero omg.
    People need atleast common sense to figure stuff out by now.
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    But people don't have common sense. If they did you wouldn't see them die to room wide aoe that the dog boss in void ark does. You'd see them go and hide like everyone else and not become fast friends with the floor. Or get on a puddle to survive mega death. That and I also don't know how one lb not going off wiped a whole alliance. There's things the OP is omitting from their story. Can people troll with rescue? Sure, but you can troll with a lot of other things. Like recently I've been running into fluid aura abusers or mch using blank cause hey why not. I'm surprised someone else didn't spam their LB button once they saw the lb got interrupted. The fight to be the one to use the LB is very real at times people get into fights about it.
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