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    NewAgeDoom's Avatar
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    Doom Moonwalker
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    Quote Originally Posted by wereotter View Post
    Yes, O7s is notorious for this, not because you're explicitly locked out from the positional, but there are a few instances of "you must stand here" mechanics, and the boss likes to turn around to target random party members for 2 seconds a lot, which can lead to missed positionals, but this isn't enough as a ninja to really need True North. It's more an issue for monks in that fight, I would say, than for ninjas as the punishment for missing positionals on ninja is minimal (except of course on trick attack, in which case you just plan for the times you know the boss will spin)
    I'll definitely keep that in mind. This is quite a bit to take in all at once, coming from WoW, where all you really had to worry about as a melee was standing behind the boss, and staying out of the bad. I appreciate all the advice.
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    Akatsubaki Dovakin
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    Quote Originally Posted by NewAgeDoom View Post
    I'll definitely keep that in mind. This is quite a bit to take in all at once, coming from WoW, where all you really had to worry about as a melee was standing behind the boss, and staying out of the bad. I appreciate all the advice.
    That's not too far from what you'll do from a position standpoint at least in most instances. It isn't required to stand on the "actual" flank of a target to hit the side positional, you just have to be in the flank range. you should be standing just to the left or right of center behind to lessen the amount of moving you have to do and just slide in and out of flank and rear position this pic should help.
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    To add to what Antony said there are some fights where the rear of the boss isn't accessable at all like Sephirot, but those are programmed to not need positional requirements to hit so your skills like trick attack will still apply the effect.
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    I'shtola Maqa
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    Very good information here. I also have a question if i may, does 07S have positionals?
    05 and 06 i was told that there is not and have not been told otherwise for 07.

    Edit: And knockback, i use Arm's and Feint, would Shade Shift be benificial?
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    Last edited by Maero; 05-14-2018 at 01:28 AM.

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    Cyrillo Rongway
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maero View Post
    Very good information here. I also have a question if i may, does 07S have positionals?
    05 and 06 i was told that there is not and have not been told otherwise for 07.
    You can tell if an enemy has a front and rear by looking at the target circle. If there's an arrow in the front and a gap in the rear, positionals matter. If the circle is unbroken and there is no arrow, they don't matter and you'll get the bonuses no matter where you stand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rongway View Post
    You can tell if an enemy has a front and rear by looking at the target circle. If there's an arrow in the front and a gap in the rear, positionals matter. If the circle is unbroken and there is no arrow, they don't matter and you'll get the bonuses no matter where you stand.
    Thank you very much, i never noticed it tbh, haha
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