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    Selling content through PF... Allowed?

    I notice alot of Raiders are "Selling content" like primal mounts savage and even ultimate through PF i dont know if this is through Gil or RMT, but since this is so blatantly obvious i was wondering if this is even allowed and if not what do people think of it and why is it allowed to go unpunished.

    I'm mostly just curious on what people think of it and if SE is actually okay with this.
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    Hmmm if it's like mercenaries for gil, it really is not against Terms of Use. IF they are asking for real money then yes.
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    If they are demanding discord for communication up front and not advertising on the same server...then NO...it is likely illegal RMT.

    Good luck proving it.

    And to anyone who says otherwise...walk away.
    The obvious fact they are demanding outside communication alone and not on the same server should be screaming suspicious to you guys.

    This has been argued ad nausea beyond all reason over the months.

    Good luck getting SE to lift a finger. (Evidence accepted/not accepted clause) As anything OUTSIDE the game is refused.

    Gee I wonder why that is. (rhetorical question)
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    Quote Originally Posted by ManuelBravo View Post
    Hmmm if it's like mercenaries for gil, it really is not against Terms of Use. IF they are asking for real money then yes.
    Well the thing is if they are selling ultimate content then obviously account access trading is also a part of it since there's no way people are clearing it with 7 man groups.

    PF is up with advertisements pretty much 24/7 and obviously discord is used to discuss it. I'm really curious as to what SE's standpoint regarding this is.
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    Player NephthysVasudan's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dio_Tiferet View Post
    Well the thing is if they are selling ultimate content then obviously account access trading is also a part of it since there's no way people are clearing it with 7 man groups.

    PF is up with advertisements pretty much 24/7 and obviously discord is used to discuss it. I'm really curious as to what SE's standpoint regarding this is.
    To state the obvious - account trading/sharing is a quick way to get banned.
    *just making sure people who get ideas understand this*

    (quote to agree - not to indicate error )
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    Quote Originally Posted by NephthysVasudan View Post
    To state the obvious - account trading/sharing is a quick way to get banned.
    *just making sure people who get ideas understand this*

    (quote to agree - not to indicate error )
    Only if it's sharing with a stranger, of course. Couples and such routinely hop onto each others' accounts for a variety of purposes; SE has no problem with that.
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    Player NephthysVasudan's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vhailor View Post
    Only if it's sharing with a stranger, of course. Couples and such routinely hop onto each others' accounts for a variety of purposes; SE has no problem with that.
    Actually no..it isn't. In legality terms - the Terms of Service is very clear.
    SE enforcing it however.....you would be correct - that doens't mean they are not within their rights to drop the ax.

    My point is - don't share your account - you do so at your own risk and peril.
    Loved ones? Ok..but don't talk about it...don't broadcast it.
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    Player ManuelBravo's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dio_Tiferet View Post
    Well the thing is if they are selling ultimate content then obviously account access trading is also a part of it since there's no way people are clearing it with 7 man groups.

    PF is up with advertisements pretty much 24/7 and obviously discord is used to discuss it. I'm really curious as to what SE's standpoint regarding this is.
    Hmmm it depends, you should never give out your account info. They can probably carry you and leave you dead, however if they are asking for real money you may need to prove it. Toa void problems your better off talking with your FC or assistance. As for SE point...hmmm speaking with a GM would be best or they will refer you to the terms of use. Depending on your region I would check appropriate terms of use.

    http://support.na.square-enix.com/rule.php?id=5382&la=1
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    Technically? No.

    Practically? Yes. SE ignores it when they advertise in PF.
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    It's kind of a bad image for the game seeing people sell stuff like this on the PF like you would on every budget lowkey MMO out there and shows a lack of community management.
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