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    Least ping dependant DPS?

    As the topic suggests, I'm looking for a DPS class that is the least heavily impacted by connection speed, as sometimes, depending on when I play, I notice a good bit of delay from lag (I don't know the exact ms numbers off the top of my head though)

    Would anyone mind making some suggestions?
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    Hmm. Well depending on the severity they'll all be impacted in some form. Maybe Monk? Maybe also Dragoon but being able to double weave helps a lot there. I think Monk might be the best bet. You should still get rotational procs in enough time, and outside of RoF you don't have to double weave (you don't strictly have to inside either though perhaps not opptimal). I'm on the fence about BLM, it logically shouldn't be too affected but knowing how cast bars/timers are in this game...hm....don't have much experience with BLM and high ping.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeliott View Post
    Hmm. Well depending on the severity they'll all be impacted in some form. Maybe Monk? Maybe also Dragoon but being able to double weave helps a lot there. I think Monk might be the best bet. You should still get rotational procs in enough time, and outside of RoF you don't have to double weave (you don't strictly have to inside either though perhaps not opptimal). I'm on the fence about BLM, it logically shouldn't be too affected but knowing how cast bars/timers are in this game...hm....don't have much experience with BLM and high ping.
    I should at least mention that my connection MOST of the time is fairly stable, it just seems to happen when I'm in an area with either:

    A. A lot of stuff going on on screen

    B. PEAK peak hours, so the servers are understandably bogged down.
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    Samurai, not really hard to play, steady dps if you know at least your rotation... And almost no double weaving.
    Just don't play MCH or Mage if you've ping. Really.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azerhan View Post
    Samurai, not really hard to play, steady dps if you know at least your rotation... And almost no double weaving.
    Just don't play MCH or Mage if you've ping. Really.
    Just based on the couple of levels I've taken it to experiment, it seems very much like an easy class to play on a basic level, but one of the hardest to play EFFECTIVELY, if that makes sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NewAgeDoom View Post
    Just based on the couple of levels I've taken it to experiment, it seems very much like an easy class to play on a basic level, but one of the hardest to play EFFECTIVELY, if that makes sense.
    Not so hard in fact
    The only things to know it's the management of kenki for the Shinten, but it's not very difficult.
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    SAM and RDM. Tho... i think it's deadly for SAM to not be able to jump in and out of melee range, due to delays :| At 62, your secondary resource (Kenki) is pretty easy to maintain, so that's at least one bonus.
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    BLM's fine at high ms. Higher delay is mostly a problem for oGCD heavy jobs which BLM doesn't have too many to worry about, nor are they having to worry about double weaves galore.

    Bit of bias here, but you could consider SMN!

    Apart from general opener considerations, you don't have to double weave that much. There's a lot of windows for single weaves which ping will not impact. I personally main it on NA from EU at 220ms (or 170ish with a VPN). Double weaves are an inevitable clip for me but I just eat and deal with it where I have to, pets can be less responsive but there are tricks you can use to adapt it to your favour. Bahamut windows need a bit more care to ensure 11 real wyrmwaves are performed.

    The job can still perform very strongly while being a lot of fun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nemekh View Post
    Bit of bias here, but you could consider SMN!

    Apart from general opener considerations, you don't have to double weave that much. There's a lot of windows for single weaves which ping will not impact. I personally main it on NA from EU at 220ms (or 170ish with a VPN). Double weaves are an inevitable clip for me but I just eat and deal with it where I have to, pets can be less responsive but there are tricks you can use to adapt it to your favour. Bahamut windows need a bit more care to ensure 11 real wyrmwaves are performed.

    The job can still perform very strongly while being a lot of fun.
    I know there was a link to the 4.2 opener lying around here on the forums on imgur, but I seem to have lost track of it, do you happen to have that handy?
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    Sure, this is my discord pins document which has a lot of general information, with this section covering openers.

    The openers may seem a little intense at first but after some practice they're fine like the openers for any other job.
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