Define a good player

[Sigma-Astra]

It's all about what other people do, though. Your example was like that. The whole thing is about what other people do or don't do. And if you tried to look at how to be good, you'd be following people's contradictory and sometimes unattainable ways of that. I think that's dumb for the reasons I give, and tends to lead to less fun because it's always chasing external validation. I didn't like seeing Kaiva despair over how other people defined good in that post a while back, and i'd rather people just focus on fun than good sometimes. Again if game mastery is legitimately fun for you, go for it. But if its more about what others do, its doomed to failure.

I don't think Kaiva is despairing as much as you think that she might be over how other people defined what a good player was. She realizes this is a forum after all and heads will butt and that people will not always see eye to eye. She even said that this thread was about people's personal opinions and that no one else HAS to follow anybody else's opinion about what a good player is, she even lamented that there were a lot of good responses so far in the thread. She was taking a break for being too critical of herself and going through a lot of personal things in her life also, which is fine, people get like that sometimes with any game or hobby, it happens. You're trying to be a voice for someone that doesn't technically need a voice, at least, from what I can see. She's not taking a break because she's despairing about over how other people define what a "good player" is.

Good responses thus far. I was just curious. Also going through a lot of things in my personal life, so it's been kinda beaten into me to take a break and stop being over-critical of myself. So, I'm taking a break. As for the few questions about what qualifies as a good player...there is no single answer to this. It's your own personal opinion on what a good player is. You don't have to follow anybody else's definition on this: it's what you personally feel is a good player in FFXIV.

I mean, she states it, right there what the point of the thread was. Of which, you just say earlier that there's no point and everyone should just play the game to have fun, which is all fine and dandy, but fun is subjective for everyone. I just find it mind boggling how you keep missing the main point of the thread's reason for discussion over and over again.