I refuse to run Castrum the way it is now

[Vamp]

The real players who suffer from this change? The ones trying to actually run it...



over 30 min - no tanks, no healers even popped up in the queue. Such a blast with no way to skip it but the cash shop. This was a terrible idea.

[RokkuEkkusu]

The real players who suffer from this change? The ones trying to actually run it...



over 30 min - no tanks, no healers even popped up in the queue. Such a blast with no way to skip it but the cash shop. This was a terrible idea.

Long before the unskippable cutscenes came out, Main Scenario Roulette duties always took a while to pop for DPS players. The release of Samurai and Red Mage as DPS roles solidified the situation. Tanks and healers tend to get in either dungeon in less than 5 minutes, even with the unskippable cutscenes.

I still prefer Castrum Meridianum because most of my runs are still cleared in less than 30 minutes, even with the unskippable cutscenes. The tomes, gil, and exp earned is pretty reasonable in a 30-minute timeframe IMO.

YMMV as far as the exp earned from getting the Praetorium in the Main Scenario Roulette goes.

[alimdia]

Long before the unskippable cutscenes came out, Main Scenario Roulette duties always took a while to pop for DPS players.

But now it takes even longer, I've seen sprouts complaining about 40-60 mins long queues for those dungeons. It's nice for many of you to say "if you don't like it don't run it" while ignoring the negative impact on new players. They need to do way more to incentivize people to run that roulette, or make those dungeons solo instances with NPCs helping the newbies. The current situation is worse than what it was because kicking wasn't that common to begin with.

[RokkuEkkusu]

But now it takes even longer, I've seen sprouts complaining about 40-60 mins long queues for those dungeons. It's nice for many of you to say "if you don't like it don't run it" while ignoring the negative impact on new players. They need to do way more to incentivize people to run that roulette, or make those dungeons solo instances with NPCs helping the newbies. The current situation is worse than what it was because kicking wasn't that common to begin with.

I agree with you on that one.

I run the MSQ roulette to help others and benefit me. If I didn't see any value in running it, I would have been in the same crowd as the ones who preferred to keep the skip cutscene option. If they increased the adventurer in need bonus, put in current end-game tomes as daily rewards, and allow each Adventurer in Need run to count for tank mounts, it might have a little more value for others (your truly included.)

[Malkria]

I agree with you on that one.

I run the MSQ roulette to help others and benefit me. If I didn't see any value in running it, I would have been in the same crowd as the ones who preferred to keep the skip cutscene option. If they increased the adventurer in need bonus, put in current end-game tomes as daily rewards, and allow each Adventurer in Need run to count for tank mounts, it might have a little more value for others (your truly included.)

I feel there should be three changes, one the 'adventurer in need' bonus should apply to ANY class type at all times. Second, it should ALWAYS be available. Right now I run the place only once a day, but I would do it more often if I could use the bonus to level alts jobs as yet another leveling option. Finally there should be an endgame reward for vets to get for doing it. Even if it is, 20 red stones and maybe 10 yellow once per day. There should be a reason for vet end-game players to wait around to play old content on a fully leveled character. XP means nothing to a player who has maxed out the class they want or even all the classes.

[KisaiTenshi]

The real players who suffer from this change? The ones trying to actually run it...



over 30 min - no tanks, no healers even popped up in the queue. Such a blast with no way to skip it but the cash shop. This was a terrible idea.

MSQ is why you see many people with leveled 70 tanks/healers but not DPS. Once you level all your tanks/healers to 70, MSQ essentially has no rewards. Regardless of the cutscenes.

Did SE do the right thing? I'm going to say this was ham-handed. This is the only way to ensure that players who want to watch the cutscenes get to watch the cutscenes. The only way the cutscenes should be skipped automatically is if all players have "skip previously viewed cutscenes" enabled. That's it.

If you're complaining about having to watch them, then stop doing MSQ roulette. It's not for you.

[Rowde]

I stopped running it after cutscene changes, even just the possibility of being locked in to it longer than what is typically necessary to clear was motivation enough for me to abandon it entirely.

And yes, I did used to run it almost daily just for the tomes because I'm an active hunter and gardener so I either use Poetics in Mor Dhona to buy Unidentifiable items to trade for soils in Idylshire OR I buy Mysterious maps in Mor Dhona to try to get a Mor Dhona map to attempt to spawn Agrippa with.

I have all jobs leveled so I always queue'd as whatever was listed as "in need" on the roulette, typically tank or healer. Though I prefer healer because my general observation was that PuG healers were often not aggressive enough and I felt like pushing healer dps and relying on HoTs and shields to mitigate most damage made the runs go faster. My ideal run for either would be somewhere around 20 minutes. It was a quick and easy thing I could queue for by myself to get some more Poetics while waiting for friends/family to log online.


Now, since that's no longer possible, I'd honestly rather just poke around zones and look for A Ranks rather than potentially get locked into a 30+ minute dungeon run for the same amount of Poetics. I'm not sure even doubling the poetics would be enough to entice me to participate in this roulette again with unskippable cutscenes, it'd have to err on the side of caution and be something like 500 poetics for the one roulette.

30 min run, "Sweet, easy 500 Poetics!"

50+ min run, "... well at least I'm getting 500 Poetics..."

MSQ is why you see many people with leveled 70 tanks/healers but not DPS. Once you level all your tanks/healers to 70, MSQ essentially has no rewards. Regardless of the cutscenes.

Did SE do the right thing? I'm going to say this was ham-handed. This is the only way to ensure that players who want to watch the cutscenes get to watch the cutscenes. The only way the cutscenes should be skipped automatically is if all players have "skip previously viewed cutscenes" enabled. That's it.

If you're complaining about having to watch them, then stop doing MSQ roulette. It's not for you.

The person you're quoting is in Queue for Castrum directly, not MSQ roulette. Assuming they're trying to get it done for MSQ... they mention skipping as in "now the only way to get it done in a timely manner could potentially be to buy the story skip potion."

[KisaiTenshi]

The person you're quoting is in Queue for Castrum directly, not MSQ roulette. Assuming they're trying to get it done for MSQ... they mention skipping as in "now the only way to get it done in a timely manner could potentially be to buy the story skip potion."

The point they are highlighting is the 0/2 0/2 4/4 part, which is a direct consequence of no tanks and no healers wanting to run it, because there is no incentive to. Take a look at all the little cards some of the forum peeps have:


You'll note, that pretty much everyone that has one, has maxed out at least one healer or one tank, if not both or all of them.

Here's why I don't run it:




I don't need any tomes, the money is meaningless. I could use the EXP on a DPS class, but that time would be better invested in POTD or using the Command missions to level DPS. If I want tomes, I can do other content faster for it.



This is queued as RDM.

[Rowde]

The real players who suffer from this change? The ones trying to actually run it...



over 30 min - no tanks, no healers even popped up in the queue. Such a blast with no way to skip it but the cash shop. This was a terrible idea.

The point they are highlighting is the 0/2 0/2 4/4 part, which is a direct consequence of no tanks and no healers wanting to run it, because there is no incentive to.

Once again, the player you quoted is saying that as a new player they are having a hard time queuing for CASTRUM directly because no tanks and healers are in queue. They don't have the option to not do it yet. They literally have to clear that content at least one time to progress the MSQ and gain further access to the game... UNLESS THEY BUY A STORY SKIP POTION. Which is what they meant by, "Such a blast with no way to skip it but the cash shop."




Also, I don't have one of those cards... so I guess this'll have to do.
https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...21494/#profile

You'll notice that I have EVERY JOB at 70, yet I still ran MSQ roulette on a daily basis before 4.3 because it was a quick and easy source of Poetics. As a byproduct that meant that I was helping new players clear the content. After the change there is very little incentive for me to run it because the primary reason I still ran it was for the QUICK and EASY Tomes that I used for soil and/or popping an S Rank.

So I'm not sure what your point you were trying to make by pointing out your character card? That MSQ roulette isn't worth it anymore? Well we're in agreement about that then. There's very little incentive for anyone who's already run MSQ dungeons to participate in MSQ roulette atm. So as a byproduct, new players who HAVE TO COMPLETE it are now getting excessively long queue times. However, they CANNOT skip it unless they pay more money, which is pretty nefarious.

[KisaiTenshi]

You'll notice that I have EVERY JOB at 70, yet I still ran MSQ roulette on a daily basis before 4.3 because it was a quick and easy source of Poetics. As a byproduct that meant that I was helping new players clear the content. After the change there is very little incentive for me to run it because the primary reason I still ran it was for the QUICK and EASY Tomes that I used for soil and/or popping an S Rank.

So I'm not sure what your point you were trying to make by pointing out your character card? That MSQ roulette isn't worth it anymore? Well we're in agreement about that then. There's very little incentive for anyone who's already run MSQ dungeons to participate in MSQ roulette atm. So as a byproduct, new players who HAVE TO COMPLETE it are now getting excessively long queue times. However, they CANNOT skip it unless they pay more money, which is pretty nefarious.

There is another option, which I was alluding to, just wait, or do MSQ as arcanist/summonor/scholar.

The complaints are coming from people who want to spam it for tomes/exp. Thus these people aren't creating a positive experience for people who want to watch the cutscenes.

The one I queued for finally popped at 1:38am, when I queued at 12:35am. Wound up with Praetorium. Took until 2:31am. So assuming the experience is the same in all data centers at an off-peak time like 1:30 in the morning, the entire queue and completion took... 2 hours look at that.

Now had I played it with a healer or tank, the queue would have been at most about 20 minutes at this time of night/morning. During prime-time it's instant as tank or healer.

If one was to drag a friend into this game, and you want them to play the story without long queues, tell them to pick Conjurer, Marauder or Gladiator, or arcanist (will still have queues until Scholar can be unlocked.)

Also, as far as EXP goes, it's not very good on DPS once you are over level 50.
[1:41]The Praetorium has begun.

[1:48]The command chamber is sealed off!
[1:49]The command chamber is no longer sealed!
[1:49]You gain 29243 (+150%) experience points.

[2:04]The Laboratorium Primum is no longer sealed!
[2:04]You gain 48573 (+150%) experience points.

[2:12]The Echelon is no longer sealed!
[2:12]You gain 65810 (+150%) experience points.

[2:25]The Porta Decumana is no longer sealed!
[2:25]You gain 95066 (+150%) experience points.

2:30]The Porta Decumana is no longer sealed!
[2:30]You gain 797136 (+150%) experience points.
[2:30]You attain level 53!
[2:30]A bonus of 609,879 experience points and 5,100 gil has been awarded for using the duty roulette.

[2:30]The Praetorium has ended.