Having fun. =D

[exilio]

I see all these posts and people seem unhappy about this and about that.

I wanted to say I'm happy and having fun. No game is perfect, but I enjoy playing FFXIV. It allows me to escape and I think SE does a pretty damned good job.

Life is too short, and there are too many MMOs to play. Why stay here, be miserable, and tell other people they should be miserable too?

Just wanted to say I'm having fun and I hope you are too. Cheers.

[AppleJinx]

How is telling people to like everything no matter what different than the group of people you complain about.

[Gralna]

I'm enjoying the game too, nice place to escape and relax for a couple hours at a time.

Glad to hear you're enjoying the game, and likewise hope more people out there are too

[AngelCheese77]

How is telling people to like everything no matter what different than the group of people you complain about.

Wut? /10char

[Ransom]

How is telling people to like everything no matter what different than the group of people you complain about.

At... What point did he say anything remotely like that? All I see is the very reasonable question "If you hate it here *that* much, why stay?"

[Hestzhyen]

At... What point did he say anything remotely like that? All I see is the very reasonable question "If you hate it here *that* much, why stay?"

Some of us really care and hope that, somehow, SE gets the message that we're worried/upset/what-have-you and will take that into account when planning for the future.

YoshiP himself will never fly to Delaware to have a one-on-one session with me about the state of XIV and what I want to see in future updates. But no game is perfect and some of us would like to see SE either take a different direction, or address some long-standing issues, and they don't seem inclined to. My greatest fear is that they will keep doing exactly what they've done so far- the same thing they've done since ARR - and double-down on not trying to shake things up in a big way to keep things from stagnating. Other companies can do it without losing their players, SE can do it too.

[Ransom]

Some of us really care and hope that, somehow, SE gets the message that we're worried/upset/what-have-you and will take that into account when planning for the future.

YoshiP himself will never fly to Delaware to have a one-on-one session with me about the state of XIV and what I want to see in future updates. But no game is perfect and some of us would like to see SE either take a different direction, or address some long-standing issues, and they don't seem inclined to. My greatest fear is that they will keep doing exactly what they've done so far- the same thing they've done since ARR - and double-down on not trying to shake things up in a big way to keep things from stagnating. Other companies can do it without losing their players, SE can do it too.

That's a totally fair and well thought-out viewpoint. No arguments. I just don't see the statement I quoted anywhere in what the OP was saying. He wasn't saying "You need to be happy no matter what." He was just saying that he is happy and doesn't understand why others aren't.

[Hestzhyen]

That's a totally fair and well thought-out viewpoint. No arguments. I just don't see the statement I quoted anywhere in what the OP was saying. He wasn't saying "You need to be happy no matter what." He was just saying that he is happy and doesn't understand why others aren't.

These in particular:

I see all these posts and people seem unhappy about this and about that. ... Life is too short, and there are too many MMOs to play. Why stay here, be miserable, and tell other people they should be miserable too?

Bolded emphasis added. He might not have meant to sound flippant or dismissive, but that's what it can come across as. Especially when there's been a lot of furor and worry over upcoming changes that seem out of tune with what people were expecting (Alliance drops going to Greed Only, the app, Eureka, etc.).

[Asiragan]

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To be fair, the fact that Yoshida never speak, whether it's on the liveletter or any interview really, of the unease that the playerbase is expressing right now is especially concerning for me. It actually makes me wonder if he knows there is a problem.

I really hope they won't repeat the same communication mistake from 1.0...

and double-down on not trying to shake things up in a big way to keep things from stagnating. Other companies can do it without losing their players, SE can do it too.

My experience from Warlords of Draenor says that the devs can make fun of the players for quite some time, but there's a point where the playerbase will realise that they can, and will, see somewhere else if the formula become too bland.

[HyoMinPark]

While there is nothing wrong about posting something positive, and while I do enjoy FFXIV as a game, there is also nothing wrong with providing criticism when things are falling short or feeling stale.

Some of the complaints that I have seen have some validity to them: such as the game’s formula for patches/expansions—2 new expert dungeons one patch, 1 the next; Savage/Normal Mode 8-man in even-numbered patches, 24-man in catch-up patch; new tomestone every other patch with 450 weekly limit; etc.. It gets to be a little stale after being the formula for 4 years. So I can understand the complaints there.

I can also understand complaints about trying to force certain mindsets on the entire playerbase when that doesn’t exactly work. I’ve heard that the Greed-Only for Alliance raid loot stems from a JP mindset of how JP players play their main jobs in content so as to not hinder the other players with lesser geared jobs, and then cannot roll Need on items not for their main, but that they want for the purpose of gearing up their alt jobs. Meanwhile, the NA/EU side has had an almost unanimously negative reaction to the change (though I have also heard that JP is not exactly thrilled about the change either).

Positivity is nice to have; but so is constructive advice. Blatantly negative threads aren’t constructive, but when people post well-thought out complaints and/or criticisms, I wouldn’t necessarily call them a bad thing, nor say that the poster is being deliberately miserable. They would just like to see an improved experience for themselves (and other like-minded players, too).