Quote Originally Posted by Yeol View Post
If someone runs with no BRD/MCH, they should know what to expect. Your caster is not your MP battery because they need their MP.

I don't think the purpose of Mana Shift is to be as good as Refresh. It is there to help, but people started depending on it so much. I personally think casters will suffer if they keep it on CD at a higher cost with no BRD/MCH around to give them their MP back.
So what would the solution be to a somewhat randomized to be paired without a BRD/MCH since that's part of the game? These kind of groups aren't running without them on their own will. The purpose is truly to not be as good, and it shouldn't be, but it's far inferior and it ends up serving no real purpose at the end.

The "dependance" argument would make sense if all jobs were self sufficient, which they aren't.