Buff Mana Shift... plz

[Zerathor]

Please... it just needs a buff so it isn't just an absolute joke in comparison to refresh.

[Hugowulf]

Isn’t the cooldown for mana shift shorter than refresh?

[Shurrikhan]

Isn’t the cooldown for mana shift shorter than refresh?

Kind of irrelevant. All that really matters is the MP/min. Mana Shift's is both far inferior and comes at cost of the caster's own mana.

[Kabooa]

Kind of irrelevant. All that really matters is the MP/min. Mana Shift's is both far inferior and comes at cost of the caster's own mana.

Don't forget Black Mages hate it because it requires UI, foreknowledge of the mana tick, an instant cast / transition, and taking it comes at the detriment of (most likely) addle, because swift, sure, diversion, and lucid threatdrop are pretty mandatory all around.

[P_Wing]

Don't forget Black Mages hate it because it requires UI, foreknowledge of the mana tick, an instant cast / transition, and taking it comes at the detriment of (most likely) addle, because swift, sure, diversion, and lucid threatdrop are pretty mandatory all around.

I think you can drop diversion for addle. Using lucid when threats are nearly at max worked fine (at least for me though).

But I agree it's clunky with requiring to be in UI thing. The only situation that doesn't incur dps loss for BLM to use mana shift is that you have thunder proc ready and Blizz 3 > Blizz 4 > Thunder proc + Shift > Foul, which is not that uncommon but troublesome to use XD.

[Aomine1992]

Yes please, was in a O8s party and we had no BRD/MCH and the mp for the healers was always just at the bottom even though we were Mana shifting religiously....it gave them such little amounts of mp it was almost negligible....

This just furthers goes to show SEs to inept to make casters have any kind of good synergy at all...like why take a caster if the range dps can provide Mana for healers so they can also dps crazy but at the same time provide better rdps.....caster is like optional these days lol

[Yeol]

Lucid Dreaming - 6,720 MP (21s).
Refresh - 6,000 MP (30s).
Ewer - 3,000 MP (15s).
Mana Shift - 3,000 MP (if caster had 15,000 MP)

Lucid Dreaming should be #1 resource for casters to get MP back. If refresh is used on CD, casters should have no MP issues (Assuming no deaths).
Mana Shift is mostly used on BRD in order to maximize Foes' usage and gain. However, this is only used when farming and trying to maximize dps output.

At the moment, BRD can have full MP during these times (In minutes).
With Mana Shift: 0, 1, 3, 4, 6, 7
Without Mana shift: 0, 1, 4, 7

Buffing Mana Shift will be good when it comes to progression, but when farming it will be almost mandatory to give it to BRD. Since BRD Maximum MP is 9,840 at level 70 (Not counting party bonus). They will easily have full MP if mana shift was buffed to give more than 3,000.

The benefit is not only for BRD. BLM & PLD can abuse this as well. I'm not against buffing it, just pointing out other uses of Mana Shift.

[magnanimousCynic]

Probably a bad comparison, but I like to compare Mana Shift to Goad when people ask why I think Mana Shift is awful.

Would you be fine if Goad had a 2-minute Recast but it drained 200 of your TP and gave 200 to the target party member?

Would you be fine if Mana Shift had a 3-minute Recast but gave the MP without needing to give up your MP?

[Remedi]

Isn't BLM immune to mana shift during AF? I never had the pleasure to test it myself

[Nobuyoki]

AF blocks any mana regen or income. Such as DRK's stance. Please do not use your mana shift on BLM ._.