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    Aylis's Avatar
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    Aylis Tessier
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    Balmung
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    Scholar Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Soupa View Post
    This. A thousand times this. If I was a dev for this game I’d be terrified of introducing any new content outside the norm if I saw how some people reacted to things like eureka.
    Adding new things is good and really isn't the issue. The issue is more or less on how they add it. This is something I would have hoped they would have figured out by now but its showing they never had and probably never will understand their audience at a global level. A mix of releasing new content as a beta test and trying to fix the damage in its aftermath due to adding in things for advancement in said content is generally a bad idea. With no safeguards in place each new piece of content puts the servers communities at each others throats since by design the content creates two different groups.

    Eureka was advertised as an old school type of static camp zone. Which is all fine and good. Sit at a camp, chat and beat up trash monsters until a named monster spawns as an added bonus. Some people like it, some don't, and that's okay. So if I'm not mistaken, relic progression was put into the zone. Enter the NM Train for faster leveling and faster resources. So now you have two groups fighting it out. The ones who enjoy the content as is vs the ones who just run around and gobble up NM's to speed up progression. Since this was the way the content was designed, neither side is right or wrong in how they tackle it, but it does create arguments between both sides.

    A and S rank hunts are another good example. You have the players that think they're server wide events vs the players that view them as an added bonus for being out in the world or something to work for with friends or something to try and solo to see how far they can push themselves. Same as before, despite SE themselves saying hunts are first come first serve. Safeguards are not in place. So by design neither side is right or wrong in how they tackle the content and thus arguments between both sides begin.

    This all ties in with my very low expectations of the game just cos they've shown me they just don't understand things on a global level and instead of learning, they just keep making those same mistakes.
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    Elamia Asiragan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soupa View Post
    This. A thousand times this. If I was a dev for this game I’d be terrified of introducing any new content outside the norm if I saw how some people reacted to things like eureka.
    It's also the devs jobs to make fun and engaging content. If they are so scared to innovate, they should do something else for a living. Because innovation is a huge part of game designer jobs.

    And even thought Eureka appeals to some peoples, to me and the vast majority of my friends, statics members and FC members, it's really a poor excuse for game design.
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    Machiko Lienwyn
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    Goblin
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    Paladin Lv 51
    Quote Originally Posted by Asiragan View Post
    It's also the devs jobs to make fun and engaging content.
    Translation: it's the dev's job to read in between the lines of thousands of users and implement content in a way that will not offend the existing player base and attract new ones. Why? Because we are paying you!

    And this, my friends, is why I never got into game development.
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    Cassandra Solidor
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Soupa View Post
    This. A thousand times this. If I was a dev for this game I’d be terrified of introducing any new content outside the norm if I saw how some people reacted to things like eureka.
    We needs examine the context though. People were upset because of months of hype, Eureka boiled down to glorified FATE farming. When you can actively alt-tab for the length of whole Youtube videos and still wind up with full credit, it's not exactly content I will be singing the dev's praise on. Another factor which I think contributes significantly to people's ire is how secretive and quiet the dev team is. Look at the near offense they took when people lambasted Diadem v2 for essentially fixing nothing despite months of hype. Case in point, Yoshida's remark and Reddit's response...

    "Just enjoy the content."
    "Make better content."

    That shows a massive disconnect, one that could be avoided with better communication. Being told "server limitations!" constantly rings especially hollow after a while...
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    Louisoix
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    Eureka was a disaster and to be honest, I was not enjoying killing mobs mindlessly and waiting for fates to appear and then repeat (not to mention if your internet is slow, you can't guarantee getting exp) Not to mention the subscription is pretty expensive for what the game has to offer. The content is slowly changing but it's not interesting enough, I would love to see them redefining what a MMO is and enhancing the experience. For me it's a socializing platform, the visuals are amazing and I wish the system was more creative and up to date (its pretty much up to date in MMORPG world, but I'm expecting something better from SQE), they enhanced the game in some ways and I can see improvements since HS in trials and raids, but it's not that big. I don't want to fetch materials and travel across the map to deliver something, it is a waste of time.
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    Ast Eryut
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    Warrior Lv 90
    They really need to update some of the trees/textures in some 2.0 areas :x it's like a ps2 games in some areas.
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    Athanasios Seiun
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    Excalibur
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    Ninja Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Alleo View Post
    - More inventory: Sorry cant because server
    - More free retainers: Sorry cant because server
    - A true glamour log: Sorry cant because server
    - Much more plates for the glamour system: sorry cant because server
    Gives that PS3 limitations horse a permanent break while PS4 limitations horse looks on warily though, right? ...Right? Nah, just kidding. Server limitations horse is begging PS3 horse to come back.
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    Interceptor Lateralus
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    Dragoon Lv 70
    As someone who's played this game since beta and been actively subscribed since launch, I'm officially leaving when my month is up. I don't want to, mind you. There's just nothing keeping me here anymore.
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    Machiko Lienwyn
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    Goblin
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    Paladin Lv 51
    Quote Originally Posted by Interceptor View Post
    As someone who's played this game since beta and been actively subscribed since launch, I'm officially leaving when my month is up. I don't want to, mind you. There's just nothing keeping me here anymore.
    Honestly, Square-Enix's attitude and public image are what keeps me here.

    Sure the game is really out-dated....but have you tried the other MMOs? They make it blatantly obvious they want your monies while providing the least possible support for the game!
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    Bjartur Arnason
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    Coeurl
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    White Mage Lv 97
    I would like more dungeons in the Squadron part. You should be able to start with the level 15 dungeons and work your way upward (I do understand that they need to make sure the AI can deal with mechanics etc).

    I would like it if you could bring your friends into your Squad part and use one of them. What I mean is, you and 2 friends want to do a dungeons, but you can't seem to get a Tank. So you can use a tank AI to do your dungeon.

    I do agree the filler quests between 'expansion' MSQ's are crazy. I skipped ARR on one character and still had a ton to do before HW even started! That can burn someone out.

    I would like if you want to use a piece of equipment for glamour, it would wipe the level and class req to level 1 and all classes respectively. I mean, you worked in whatever way to get that piece of clothing, you should be able to wear it on whatever class you are playing as (I'm looking at you, cute head pieces only for MAGE USERS).
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