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  1. #71
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    Baingoleth's Avatar
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    Baingoleth Crimson
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    Sargatanas
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    White Mage Lv 100
    SE seems to have the opinion that players should be waiting for anyone who wants to watch cutscenes. I agree with them.

    In my experience, it is usually only 1 or 2 people who want to rush in and leave the new player behind. The other people also run in and engage the boss because they don't want to be left behind. If more people would hang back and let the new player watch these short cutscenes and let the irritable people who pull the boss early die, this wouldn't be an issue.

    What's done is done. There are cutscenes in group content and that's a bad design choice because it creates opportunities for bullies to push around newbies. I stand with the newbies on this one. I don't go into any group content unless I know I have enough time to play through multiple wipes and wait for cutscenes. I'll stand with the person watching cutscenes and wait. I am fine with skipping cutscenes, I really am, but I will continue to wait for even one person who is watching them.

    Lets be reasonable here. This is an MMO. If you only have an hour of free time, is a roulette the right choice? I see this argument all the time. Someone only has an hour and the rest of the party shouldn't make that player wait for anything. Maybe that hour is better spent doing something else that takes less time than group content where you know you won't have to rush. Just because you are late for work and want to drive 20 over the speed limit doesn't mean you should be tailgating and honking your horn. Leave earlier. Do you just want to go fast? You shouldn't count on roulette making you that party. Sorry but you are getting a mixed group with people who might not have the same gaming style as you. Be a little flexible and remember that in SE's eyes, people who want to watch cutscenes have the right to both watch the cutscenes and fight the boss.

    I've seen worse communities and I've seen better communities than we have in FFXIV. For the size of the player base, I think people in group content are usually quite decent. If the decent people wouldn't get coerced by the bullies, group content would be better for it. The number one reason that my friends give for why they won't leave Lord of the Rings Online and come here is because they feel intimidated in group content. That is a problem that doesn't exist in Lord of the Rings Online. The player base is mostly older people and because of the smaller player base overall, people in group content mostly know each other and are usually respectful and deliberately take time to make sure a newbie does well and enjoys a first run in any group content. Why does it so often have to be that a few bullies have to wreck things for newbies who get frustrated with group content and leave in FFXIV?
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  2. #72
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    Fhaerron's Avatar
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    Fhaerron Kobayashi
    World
    Twintania
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 100
    Good thing I'm almost done lvling my alt jobs to 70, no need to keep running them anymore and savage raid gear is equal / faster then Rabanastre, especially that now SE decided that everybody can roll on anything for reasons beyond my understanding.

    I'm sorry that I do not like watching cut-scenes a million times.

    If this becomes a thing then goodbye alliance raid roulette.

    Sorry that I have full time job and other activities and I can 'only' play 3 hours per night.
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  3. #73
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    Alleo's Avatar
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    Light Khah
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    Moogle
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    Arcanist Lv 91
    Quote Originally Posted by Ghastly View Post
    Very much so, a solution wouldn't be needed if people were welcoming of new people in these duties. Before stormblood the community was welcoming to new people, this is starting to change, an mmo that's not welcoming dies pretty fast. This is not opinion, it's fact.
    Its still just your opinion. Facts are something that you 100% can prove and I am quite sure that nobody here has ever played every run that exists to make a statement that is truly a fact. Maybe it has gotten worse but maybe its just the same as before but you notice it more. I honestly already had bad runs with very mean people in the older raids and did not feel like much changed. People already pulled early in ARR and HW and they still do that in SB.

    Keeping the entrance open for longer would still be a better idea than forcing everyone to always watch a cutscene no matter how small the scene is.
    (8)
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  4. #74
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    Kayiko's Avatar
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    Kayiko Okami
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    Cerberus
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    White Mage Lv 70
    But. If they do this when will be able to dance randomly or use emotes while waiting on someone?
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  5. #75
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    Axl Stream
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    Faerie
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    Warrior Lv 90
    Again... why do veterans going on their nth run need to be welcoming again? Yes very nice, it's your first time in Rabanastre but the rest of the party has been here 30+ time, let's go already.
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  6. #76
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    Lynde's Avatar
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    Astra Tsuki
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    Hyperion
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    Machinist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by AxlStream View Post
    Again... why do veterans going on their nth run need to be welcoming again? Yes very nice, it's your first time in Rabanastre but the rest of the party has been here 30+ time, let's go already.
    In essence you are saying **** the newcomers let's go, regardless of if they are interested in the cutscene regardless of it's length? That's pretty rude if so.
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  7. #77
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    Axl Stream
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    Faerie
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    Warrior Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Lynde View Post
    In essence you are saying **** the newcomers let's go, regardless of if they are interested in the cutscene regardless of it's length? That's pretty rude if so.
    Hey, once you've see the nth wipe on Hashbrown, you kind of get excited to kill the last boss and get back to something you have less chaos in.
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  8. #78
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    Pheryx Ramal
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    Excalibur
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    Ninja Lv 80
    I seriously hope the devs don't listen to this tripe. Cause if you do this for everything I might as well just play something else. I have auto skip cutscene on for a reason. Catch up and do it when it drops or deal with it.
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  9. #79
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    Astra Tsuki
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    Hyperion
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    Machinist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Pheryx View Post
    I seriously hope the devs don't listen to this tripe. Cause if you do this for everything I might as well just play something else. I have auto skip cutscene on for a reason. Catch up and do it when it drops or deal with it.
    I'm not asking for unskippable CS, but being locked out of a fight due to wanting to watch it is not really fair for them. This has nothing to do with "doing it when it drops". And in every new content, I personally watch the CS, and if I get locked out, oh well. But if you bash me for watching it because I enjoy the story? That's quite rude of you if you do.
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  10. #80
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    Cecelia Stormfeather
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    Cactuar
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by AxlStream View Post
    Again... why do veterans going on their nth run need to be welcoming again? Yes very nice, it's your first time in Rabanastre but the rest of the party has been here 30+ time, let's go already.
    Such a nice, friendly, welcoming community here. No doubt people will be eager to sign up to play with fine attitudes like this one.
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