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    Nora_of_Mira's Avatar
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    Nora Origo
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    Dragoon Lv 80
    if this was implemented, I would say goodbye too alliance roulette just like MSQ roulette. forcing people to watch cutscenes they've already viewed is wasting people's time, plain and simple. FFxiv and Yoshi P have always tried to communicate that they respect their player's time in game but this goes completely against it but forcing you to waste it on cutscenes. no thanks.
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    Player Okamimaru's Avatar
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    Rastiana Bel'briar
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    Malboro
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Would be best if it flags new players and won't make boss appear until their cutscene ends... that way of no new people no waiting...
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    Aoki Kha
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    Reaper Lv 100
    I would be more okay with being locked out of the boss room (where I can move around a little, mess with emotes, etc.) than being forced to watch cutscenes. Honestly this is what they should have done with the MSQ roulette to begin with. You want to kill the alliance raid roulette? This is how you kill the alliance raid roulette. And as someone who has spent anywhere between 45 minutes to 3 hours waiting in pre-roulette queues for the sake of farming gear I do not want to go back to this.
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    Nestama Eynfoetsyn
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    Lamia
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    Samurai Lv 100
    People rarely get locked out from my experiences with Alliance Roulette. So far the only person I've seen get locked out was the aforementioned tank in my previous post.

    I honestly don't see this as a big issue some people seem to be making it out to be.
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    Baingoleth Crimson
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    Sargatanas
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    SE seems to have the opinion that players should be waiting for anyone who wants to watch cutscenes. I agree with them.

    In my experience, it is usually only 1 or 2 people who want to rush in and leave the new player behind. The other people also run in and engage the boss because they don't want to be left behind. If more people would hang back and let the new player watch these short cutscenes and let the irritable people who pull the boss early die, this wouldn't be an issue.

    What's done is done. There are cutscenes in group content and that's a bad design choice because it creates opportunities for bullies to push around newbies. I stand with the newbies on this one. I don't go into any group content unless I know I have enough time to play through multiple wipes and wait for cutscenes. I'll stand with the person watching cutscenes and wait. I am fine with skipping cutscenes, I really am, but I will continue to wait for even one person who is watching them.

    Lets be reasonable here. This is an MMO. If you only have an hour of free time, is a roulette the right choice? I see this argument all the time. Someone only has an hour and the rest of the party shouldn't make that player wait for anything. Maybe that hour is better spent doing something else that takes less time than group content where you know you won't have to rush. Just because you are late for work and want to drive 20 over the speed limit doesn't mean you should be tailgating and honking your horn. Leave earlier. Do you just want to go fast? You shouldn't count on roulette making you that party. Sorry but you are getting a mixed group with people who might not have the same gaming style as you. Be a little flexible and remember that in SE's eyes, people who want to watch cutscenes have the right to both watch the cutscenes and fight the boss.

    I've seen worse communities and I've seen better communities than we have in FFXIV. For the size of the player base, I think people in group content are usually quite decent. If the decent people wouldn't get coerced by the bullies, group content would be better for it. The number one reason that my friends give for why they won't leave Lord of the Rings Online and come here is because they feel intimidated in group content. That is a problem that doesn't exist in Lord of the Rings Online. The player base is mostly older people and because of the smaller player base overall, people in group content mostly know each other and are usually respectful and deliberately take time to make sure a newbie does well and enjoys a first run in any group content. Why does it so often have to be that a few bullies have to wreck things for newbies who get frustrated with group content and leave in FFXIV?
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    Fhaerron Kobayashi
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Good thing I'm almost done lvling my alt jobs to 70, no need to keep running them anymore and savage raid gear is equal / faster then Rabanastre, especially that now SE decided that everybody can roll on anything for reasons beyond my understanding.

    I'm sorry that I do not like watching cut-scenes a million times.

    If this becomes a thing then goodbye alliance raid roulette.

    Sorry that I have full time job and other activities and I can 'only' play 3 hours per night.
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    Axl Stream
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    Faerie
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    Warrior Lv 90
    Again... why do veterans going on their nth run need to be welcoming again? Yes very nice, it's your first time in Rabanastre but the rest of the party has been here 30+ time, let's go already.
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    Astra Tsuki
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    Hyperion
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    Machinist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by AxlStream View Post
    Again... why do veterans going on their nth run need to be welcoming again? Yes very nice, it's your first time in Rabanastre but the rest of the party has been here 30+ time, let's go already.
    In essence you are saying **** the newcomers let's go, regardless of if they are interested in the cutscene regardless of it's length? That's pretty rude if so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lynde View Post
    In essence you are saying **** the newcomers let's go, regardless of if they are interested in the cutscene regardless of it's length? That's pretty rude if so.
    Hey, once you've see the nth wipe on Hashbrown, you kind of get excited to kill the last boss and get back to something you have less chaos in.
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    Nestama Eynfoetsyn
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    Lamia
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    Samurai Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by AxlStream View Post
    Hey, once you've see the nth wipe on Hashbrown, you kind of get excited to kill the last boss and get back to something you have less chaos in.
    With Rabanastre, you kind of need to wait as the cutscene introducing the final boss is roughly a minute long. If someone decides to pull instantly and (unlikely) half/most of the raid is watching the cutscene, most of them are not going to be able to enter if they decide to keep watching. Also cool downs. I'd like to have Riddle of Fire and Brotherhood up before fighting the Duma of Doma.
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