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  1. #121
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    Fhaerron's Avatar
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    Fhaerron Kobayashi
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    Paladin Lv 100
    I always call out DPS to use LB.

    I don't know how people don't see this, don't people read tooltips?
    Back in 2014 I created my first character, first thing I did after that intro quest was open my spell book and look at all the abilities and the descriptions and LB was the first I one I put on my bar.
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  2. #122
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    Remus's Avatar
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    Robas Kebas
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    Odin
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    Samurai Lv 100
    I just forget. Most of the time I run expert with people I know, so when we are killing a boss I don't realise it's already almost dead.
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  3. #123
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    I think that it's fair to say that, outside of Savage and a select few bosses where it's highly advantageous to use LB appropriately, as well as Byakko Ex and A12, LBs in their current iterations are essentially useless. Now, in my original post, I was just wondering about LBs - didn't really share an opinion on its potency, if it's good or not, when to use it, etc. But as it is right now, I do feel like...there's no point in using it outside of those above named situations, save for maybe shaving off a couple of seconds fighting a boss, gpose reasons, killing a mob faster, etc.
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  4. #124
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    Alaray's Avatar
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    Vevri Arctyria
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    Balmung
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Eh, I often don't push it simply because I don't feel like it. I don't get why people wait until like 1 percent to do it, though.

    Sometimes I'm thinking "eh, the other melee will do it" not realizing I'm the only melee lol

    In Savage I'm banned from LBing, ever since the night my static cleared O5S involved me fat fingering tank LB :B
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  5. #125
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    whiteblade89's Avatar
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    Auron Vale
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    Cactuar
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by KaivaC View Post
    gpose reasons
    The only REAL reason to use a LB :3

    For real though, I'm an LB whore. Many friends across many servers and data centers have said this about me. As soon as I hear that BASHIIIING, my finger is already on the trigger. I just love big, flashy attacks. Although SAM's LB3 leaves a bit to be desired, but I see why they couldn't make their LB3 Zantetsuken. Would have been sexy though O_O
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  6. #126
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    JohnnyDevo's Avatar
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    J'majha Devo
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    Midgardsormr
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by RiyahArp View Post
    Try it. Shin has a really big pool relative to other bosses, that's why he has tails you kill to knock off 400k HP. Other bosses go down fast enough without it. Oh, and I forgot another reason; the LB got the player killed at some point, and he's wary of using it.
    The only relevance of LB usefulness is how much damage you do with it vs how much damage you would be doing otherwise.

    That does not change based on boss HP. Shinryu specifically should be using an LB3 before adds, then a caster LB3 on his wings and back for maximum LB effectiveness.

    This is, of course, assuming you're in a group where nobody fucks up and dies. But that's also true for every boss and LB usage.

    EDIT: Oh. This topic is 12 pages long.
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  7. #127
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    AngelCheese77's Avatar
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    Bjartur Arnason
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    Coeurl
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    White Mage Lv 94
    There is no mention of LBs in any of the tasks you do at the Smith, so I can understand if new players have no idea what it is.

    I keep the LB button on my hotbar for all my classes, no matter their role. I just forget alot when I'm tank and waste it on an unneeded shield lol.

    But it is useful. Use it while you can. Makes some fights quicker! Not always necessary, except when in much higher dungeons and raids, where the LB bar can make or break it.
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  8. #128
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    Aurebel's Avatar
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    Cymbeline Songweaver
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    Midgardsormr
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    White Mage Lv 65
    Is it worth using LB1 on the second boss of a dungeon and then another LB1 on the final boss, or should one be waiting until the final boss to use LB2 on it? Though, regarding the second option, there's the possibility that there isn't enough gauge for LB2 even then.
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  9. #129
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    Doom Moonwalker
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    Diabolos
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    Black Mage Lv 61
    Quote Originally Posted by whiteblade89 View Post
    The only REAL reason to use a LB :3

    For real though, I'm an LB whore. Many friends across many servers and data centers have said this about me. As soon as I hear that BASHIIIING, my finger is already on the trigger. I just love big, flashy attacks. Although SAM's LB3 leaves a bit to be desired, but I see why they couldn't make their LB3 Zantetsuken. Would have been sexy though O_O
    YOU TAKE YOUR GETSUGA TENSHOU AND YOU LIKE IT!
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  10. #130
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    Light Khah
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    Moogle
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    Arcanist Lv 91
    As a summoner I had different reactions with using a LB:

    - Why did you use the LB on trash, melee could have used it on boss; Me: =_=
    - Why did you not use the LB on trash, dont need it on boss; Me: =_=

    Or I dont use the LB on trash and want the melee to use it at a boss and just see how the boss is going down to <5% and the melee just uses it at the last second, thus using it too late since it could have taken more LP with them; Me: =_= (and internal facepalm)

    People can also just tunnel the boss so much that they forget to LB and not watch the chat thus miss people talking about it. Or maybe they have a ranged as a main and just going to level their melee and thus forget that its their job to hit the boss with it.

    Its probably not done on purpose or even because of them being lazy, it might just be that they forgotten it or they had runs like I did where you just did it wrong by using it somehwere where the set of people did not want it and thus fear of using it there again. I am fine if people are getting a bit cranky in chat if I misuse it (even if its not a misuse in my view) but I can see how this could scare newer players away from using it ever again. Kinda like "before I get told off that I was using it wrong I am just ignoring it as long as possible and hope that the other DD will use it instead".

    Quote Originally Posted by Remedi View Post
    Something that idd always irked me was how useless healer LB1 and 2 are, while tank have some sort of usefulness in some scenarios, healers LB are just an aoe heal and considering how strong aoe heals are alreasy in the game they don't stand out in any way, maybe SE should redesign them in some ways
    Maybe they could rework it into making LB1 raising tanks, LB2 raising tanks and healers and LB3 raising everyone. Thus this might help at least a bit more than just an aoe heal (and save mana). Just an idea that went into my head after reading your post.

    (In the end I am just happy to use an LB as a mage because it feels great to rain down death on my enemies :3)
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