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  1. #81
    Player CorbinDallas's Avatar
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    Korbin Dallas
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    Twintania
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    Scholar Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by KaivaC View Post
    Wait, what? You can use Esuna there (I have not gone in as a healer, and things are so chaotic that I don't have a chance to pay attention to other party members bars, aside from which tank has prey if I'm tanking.
    Inside the healer ghost, it debuffs you with reduced healing. Says a lot that since week one you've been able to brute force through it with off globals since the ghost kills itself before the third cast.
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  2. #82
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    Avatre's Avatar
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    Avatre Drakone
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    Cactuar
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Dualgunner View Post
    I can get where you're coming from with "you are responsible for avoiding avoidable mechanics." Within the realm of a 24 man though you do kind of have to assume they're all incapable of that, I'd count things like Hashmal as important times to take esuna.
    While I agree, 9/10 nobody Esuna's the bleed. Not even when it's the healer themselves who has it(probably because they never took it to begin with).
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  3. #83
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    Quote Originally Posted by CorbinDallas View Post
    Inside the healer ghost, it debuffs you with reduced healing. Says a lot that since week one you've been able to brute force through it with off globals since the ghost kills itself before the third cast.
    Oh no, the last time I tried the cheese strat, I totally missed both Onslaught and Upheaval. I killed the ghost...about a second after the party died lol. But WAR was a recent thing - up until a few weeks ago, I only went in as PLD, SMN, and DRG.
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  4. #84
    Player Dualgunner's Avatar
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    Lilila Lila
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    Coeurl
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    Machinist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Avatre View Post
    While I agree, 9/10 nobody Esuna's the bleed. Not even when it's the healer themselves who has it(probably because they never took it to begin with).
    Fair, and if enough people got hit esuna is only saving so many of them. People need to use the tools they bring or they really are dead slots.
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  5. #85
    Player RiyahArp's Avatar
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    Riyah Arpeggio
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    Exodus
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    Scholar Lv 90
    The problem with esuna is that SE moved to make debuffs uncleansable as punishment mechanics for the most part, while removing cleansables ones. I don't think any HB dungeon has much of any of them. So people aren't used to a useful esuna as much any more/
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  6. #86
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    Cecelia Stormfeather
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    Cactuar
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by CorbinDallas View Post
    and the healer role actions are abysmally thought out and need a good rework.
    That part is entirely true.
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  7. #87
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    Coratanni's Avatar
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    Whispering Whiskers
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    Goblin
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    White Mage Lv 100
    I have one hotbar with my limit break on it regardless of which class I am on. I have noticed a lack of lb in dungeons the last several months. Even when I say anything about it.
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  8. #88
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    Donna Shanao
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    Carbuncle
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    Summoner Lv 70
    Lb3 melee is always the strongest, its usually use by a ninja on progression or clear savage etc. On weekly o5678s farm I've been joining there's never any moment that I see it use by any melee, unless alot of death or mistakes especially at o8s 2nd forsaken lol thats when healer lb3 comes handy.
    Whoever said caster / range lb is more effective makes me chuckle a bit lool.
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  9. #89
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    Avatre Drakone
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    Cactuar
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by giwaman View Post
    Whoever said caster / range lb is more effective makes me chuckle a bit lool.
    It's situational. Since you can only get LB3 during a boss, unless there are adds that it can decimate(two caster LB3 take the adds during Hashmal to ~10-15% remaining), then yes melee LB is more powerful.

    During a dungeon run with a massive wall to wall pull, a caster or ranged DPS LB would be more ideal as you can knock the HP down a fair chunk while your co-DPS keeps on AoEing as needed.
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  10. #90
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    CrystalRainbow's Avatar
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    Crystal Rainbow
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    Balmung
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    Archer Lv 80
    I have lb on common bar.
    As a tank I hate typing...
    OK lb already. It's like people are afraid to use it.
    In dungeon content
    Tank and Healer lb is 100% useless
    And DPs just speeds up the fight s few seconds so it really doesn't matter much but I feel your pain op

    There are a few places signal bar lb saves time on large groups of mobs with aoe lb but for the most part there is no reason not to use it once it hits full bar.
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