Is limit break not a thing?

[NephthysVasudan]

I'm actually given to believe more instances don't need it than do. The gauntlet is thrown however, mention all the instances that esuna is required instead of adopting a holier than thou attitude with the guy.

Nope...the "guy" will just make up more stuff that are ridiculous and foolish. Not worth the time. I couldn't care less of being accused of holier than thou...its not holier than thou.
If I'm healing your party...you can be damn sure you won't have a stupid accident because I'll have Esuna and actually use it.
Couldn't care less what anyone thinks beyond that.
Heal smarter...not harder.

[Dualgunner]

Nope...the "guy" will just make up more stuff that are ridiculous and foolish. Not worth the time. I couldn't care less of being accused of holier than thou...its not holier than thou.
If I'm healing your party...you can be damn sure you won't have a stupid accident because I'll have Esuna and actually use it.
Couldn't care less what anyone thinks beyond that.
Heal smarter...not harder.

And if the dungeon in question has nothing to esuna? Honestly the previous poster I think had the right of it: things like esuna and rampart should have remained native abilities on all jobs of their role and not been dragged into cross role.

[Tridus]

Prove me wrong. Aside from 2 (?) instances of Doom, and Allagan Venom, tell me where else Esuna is absolutely mandatory for a clear.

I couldn't care less about "it's saved someone from Hashmal bleed" or other such things, people shouldn't be getting hit in the first place.

If the standard is "absolutely mandatory for a clear" as you say, then healers have exactly one: Lucid Dreaming (maybe two if you count Swiftcast). None of the others are mandatory for a clear, and several of them are basically irrelevant.

It's an absurdist standard in the first place. Esuna's useful on several fights, including things you want to dismiss like people being hit by Hashmal's bleed. Here in reality, people get hit by stuff they shouldn't and being able to fix that without going to Raise is certainly helpful for a speedier clear.

[CorbinDallas]

I'm not going to argue with someone who has no clue what they are talking about.
You're not worth the time. I'll just black list you in game if you decide to heal a party without esuna instead.
This is a common sense aspect...not a "preference"

For what it's worth, I've cleared every raid tier since BCoB as a healer, but go ahead and insinuate that I don't know what I'm talking about. By the way, I've thought of another one to add to your list to help you out, since you seem to be struggling, Thornmarch Extreme - Moogle Go Round, we're up to 4 now, out of 100+ encounters. I'm waiting.

On topic: LB can sometimes be punishing for the individual who uses it depending on the job they're on. I know I personally don't bother when I play BLM because the rotation is strict enough as is with timings and I don't want anything to drop.

[Ghishlain]

Nope...the "guy" will just make up more stuff that are ridiculous and foolish. Not worth the time. I couldn't care less of being accused of holier than thou...its not holier than thou.
If I'm healing your party...you can be damn sure you won't have a stupid accident because I'll have Esuna and actually use it.
Couldn't care less what anyone thinks beyond that.
Heal smarter...not harder.

The bolded is a bit of an ironic comment coming from someone who doesn't want to take the time to understand which fights don't require Esuna and thus free up other cross role slots that allow them to heal smarter. IE, taking Sure Cast in O8 over Esuna to assist with knock back mechanics while maintaining positioning for good healing / DPS or taking Cleric Stance to help out with the deeps. I routinely swap out cross roles depending on the content just to help optimize / heal smarter.

In savage, the only tier you need Esuna is in O5S and you don't even need that if you're doing the train skip. But I will bring Esuna for Rabanstre because, well, crap happens. So, yes heal smarter and bring a better cross role that isn't 100% useless / very low utilization depending on the content you're participating in.

[CorbinDallas]

If the standard is "absolutely mandatory for a clear" as you say, then healers have exactly one: Lucid Dreaming (maybe two if you count Swiftcast). None of the others are mandatory for a clear, and several of them are basically irrelevant.

It's an absurdist standard in the first place. Esuna's useful on several fights, including things you want to dismiss like people being hit by Hashmal's bleed. Here in reality, people get hit by stuff they shouldn't and being able to fix that without going to Raise is certainly helpful for a speedier clear.

I'm just saying I've had more use out of Surecast of all things than Esuna since Stormblood dropped. Hell I don't even take it for the debuff in O5S because it simply isn't needed, since the debuff doesn't affect off globals like Tetragrammaton.

I'll dismiss poor play as poor play, I believe Esuna is a wasted ability and the healer role actions are abysmally thought out and need a good rework.

[KaivaC]

In savage, the only tier you need Esuna is in O5S and you don't even need that if you're doing the train skip.

Wait, what? You can use Esuna there (I have not gone in as a healer, and things are so chaotic that I don't have a chance to pay attention to other party members bars, aside from which tank has prey if I'm tanking.

[Gumbercules]

I pop em at lvl 1 in dungeons! >

[Dualgunner]

Prove me wrong. Aside from 2 (?) instances of Doom, and Allagan Venom, tell me where else Esuna is absolutely mandatory for a clear.

I couldn't care less about "it's saved someone from Hashmal bleed" or other such things, people shouldn't be getting hit in the first place.

I can get where you're coming from with "you are responsible for avoiding avoidable mechanics." Within the realm of a 24 man though you do kind of have to assume they're all incapable of that, I'd count things like Hashmal as important times to take esuna.

[Ghishlain]

Wait, what? You can use Esuna there (I have not gone in as a healer, and things are so chaotic that I don't have a chance to pay attention to other party members bars, aside from which tank has prey if I'm tanking.

The only debuff that can be removed with Esuna is the potency reduction debuff in the healer train since you're suppose to out heal that damage. If you're using the train skip you don't even have to bring Esuna since you won't be doing that mechanic.

No other mechanic that places a debuff on a party member in the entirety of Sigmascape (Savage) can be removed with Esuna.