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    Quote Originally Posted by lilithvincent View Post
    Ok, pls stop posting. You're lowing the intelligence of the whole community with this bull shit. In almost every fight melee LB3 is optimal, sure heal LB3 can save a fight but you shouldn't ever be saving a full LB bar for that.
    Wow, thought I was in the WoW forums for a second. Anyways, if you're progressing on a fight, saving LB3 to see more of the fight is pretty much the smartest use of LB. While it's "optimal" in a vague sense to use melee LB3 in a single target boss, during any type of progression it's almost never practical to pop LB3 randomly. Furthermore, in Shinryu or Shinryu EX, it's suboptimal to use melee LB3 on the boss. It is far more effective to use it on the adds if your DPS tanked the floor a bunch and you think you'll die to protostar, or to use it on his wings at the end of the fight in Shinryu EX. It's also disingenuous to say that in "almost every fight" melee LB3 is optimal, since the majority of fights in the game are trash mobs, and if you have the ability to LB at all, it's more effective to use caster or ranged LB during those fights.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinh119 View Post
    It's also disingenuous to say that in "almost every fight" melee LB3 is optimal, since the majority of fights in the game are trash mobs.
    what endgame fights are trash mobs?
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    Quote Originally Posted by lilithvincent View Post
    what endgame fights are trash mobs?
    None, but you didn't specify "endgame fights". Your statement was "In almost every fight melee LB3 is optimal," which is false, because the majority of fights in the game are trash mobs. Although I find it interesting that you decided to pick out my mostly sarcastic statement to criticize rather than the rest of my post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinh119 View Post
    None, but you didn't specify "endgame fights". Your statement was "In almost every fight melee LB3 is optimal," which is false, because the majority of fights in the game are trash mobs. Although I find it interesting that you decided to pick out my mostly sarcastic statement to criticize rather than the rest of my post.
    What other content matters? also the rest of your post was bad if it makes you feel any better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lilithvincent View Post
    What other content matters? also the rest of your post was bad if it makes you feel any better.
    What do you mean by "matters"? Also, I can tell you have great bedside manners.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dualgunner View Post
    To be fair, what trash mob fights even grant access to LB3?
    I'm not sure, but that would be an interesting thing to look into.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinh119 View Post
    I'm not sure, but that would be an interesting thing to look into.
    I don't think there's any trash mob fight in the game that even gives you access to LB3. Those are tied to boss fights. To my knowledge. I don't recall if this is the case with alliance raids, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinh119 View Post
    I'm not sure, but that would be an interesting thing to look into.
    None. You only get the extra LB bar on bosses. So the closest thing is something like the golems on Hashmal (and caster LB3 rules the day on that).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinh119 View Post
    What do you mean by "matters"? Also, I can tell you have great bedside manners.
    What other content do you ever need LB for at all? Certainly not Dungeons or 24 man content.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lilithvincent View Post
    What other content do you ever need LB for at all? Certainly not Dungeons or 24 man content.
    It can be useful in dungeons and speed up play if the tank and other players know enough to do large pulls in certain areas. A couple of examples are all trash between the 1st and 2nd boss or trash between the laser gates after the 2nd boss of Ala Mhigo. Pulling all of trash just before the last boss Skalla is another place where the caster LB can speed up play. Other dungeons have similar places where the caster LB can be effective and can be rebuilt for use on the last boss. The real problem is DF groups have little discussion or knowledge about where LB can be effective so if they use LB it is just to use it not as part of any strategy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinh119 View Post
    None, but you didn't specify "endgame fights". Your statement was "In almost every fight melee LB3 is optimal," which is false, because the majority of fights in the game are trash mobs. Although I find it interesting that you decided to pick out my mostly sarcastic statement to criticize rather than the rest of my post.
    To be fair, what trash mob fights even grant access to LB3?
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