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    Quote Originally Posted by NephthysVasudan View Post
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    Side note, but esuna is garbage and a waste of a slot 99.9% of the time and only required for like 4 fights in the entire game. Stop putting so much weight or value to it when there are much better role skill choices.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CorbinDallas View Post
    Side note, but esuna is garbage and a waste of a slot 99.9% of the time and only required for like 4 fights in the entire game. Stop putting so much weight or value to it when there are much better role skill choices.
    HAHAHAHHAHAHA


    You're funny.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NephthysVasudan View Post
    HAHAHAHHAHAHA


    You're funny.
    Prove me wrong. Aside from 2 (?) instances of Doom, and Allagan Venom, tell me where else Esuna is absolutely mandatory for a clear.

    I couldn't care less about "it's saved someone from Hashmal bleed" or other such things, people shouldn't be getting hit in the first place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CorbinDallas View Post
    Prove me wrong. Aside from 2 (?) instances of Doom, and Allagan Venom, tell me where else Esuna is absolutely mandatory for a clear.

    I couldn't care less about "it's saved someone from Hashmal bleed" or other such things, people shouldn't be getting hit in the first place.
    I'm not going to argue with someone who has no clue what they are talking about.
    You're not worth the time. I'll just black list you in game if you decide to heal a party without esuna instead.
    This is a common sense aspect...not a "preference"
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    Quote Originally Posted by NephthysVasudan View Post
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    I mean he's not wrong in that esuna is a wasted slot and should have just remained native to all healers. Seems obvious to use it in the few situations that demand it albeit a short list.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NephthysVasudan View Post
    I'm not going to argue with someone who has no clue what they are talking about.
    You're not worth the time. I'll just black list you in game if you decide to heal a party without esuna instead.
    This is a common sense aspect...not a "preference"
    For what it's worth, I've cleared every raid tier since BCoB as a healer, but go ahead and insinuate that I don't know what I'm talking about. By the way, I've thought of another one to add to your list to help you out, since you seem to be struggling, Thornmarch Extreme - Moogle Go Round, we're up to 4 now, out of 100+ encounters. I'm waiting.

    On topic: LB can sometimes be punishing for the individual who uses it depending on the job they're on. I know I personally don't bother when I play BLM because the rotation is strict enough as is with timings and I don't want anything to drop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CorbinDallas View Post
    Prove me wrong. Aside from 2 (?) instances of Doom, and Allagan Venom, tell me where else Esuna is absolutely mandatory for a clear.

    I couldn't care less about "it's saved someone from Hashmal bleed" or other such things, people shouldn't be getting hit in the first place.
    If the standard is "absolutely mandatory for a clear" as you say, then healers have exactly one: Lucid Dreaming (maybe two if you count Swiftcast). None of the others are mandatory for a clear, and several of them are basically irrelevant.

    It's an absurdist standard in the first place. Esuna's useful on several fights, including things you want to dismiss like people being hit by Hashmal's bleed. Here in reality, people get hit by stuff they shouldn't and being able to fix that without going to Raise is certainly helpful for a speedier clear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tridus View Post
    If the standard is "absolutely mandatory for a clear" as you say, then healers have exactly one: Lucid Dreaming (maybe two if you count Swiftcast). None of the others are mandatory for a clear, and several of them are basically irrelevant.

    It's an absurdist standard in the first place. Esuna's useful on several fights, including things you want to dismiss like people being hit by Hashmal's bleed. Here in reality, people get hit by stuff they shouldn't and being able to fix that without going to Raise is certainly helpful for a speedier clear.
    I'm just saying I've had more use out of Surecast of all things than Esuna since Stormblood dropped. Hell I don't even take it for the debuff in O5S because it simply isn't needed, since the debuff doesn't affect off globals like Tetragrammaton.

    I'll dismiss poor play as poor play, I believe Esuna is a wasted ability and the healer role actions are abysmally thought out and need a good rework.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CorbinDallas View Post
    and the healer role actions are abysmally thought out and need a good rework.
    That part is entirely true.
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