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  1. #11
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    Tempest222's Avatar
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    Kestrel Moon
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    Midgardsormr
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    Red Mage Lv 70
    I could have easily just not been paying proper attention, but I didn’t really know limit break was a thing or how to use it for quite a while. When you first start the game on a new character there are a few extras on your hot bars like sprint and return, but limit break you have to go digging through menus to find. It probably takes some people a while to even find that spot and realize it exists. It might be helpful to have limit break as one of those few extras that are auto placed on the hot bars to start out, even though you won’t be in group content where it’s usable for a bit, just so people are clear it’s a thing.
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  2. #12
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    Antonio_Xul's Avatar
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    Edgar Xerxes
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    Zalera
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 95
    I don't believe LB is ever mentioned in The Hall of Novice and it definitely should. I use my Melee DPS LB on dungeon bosses to end them quickly. It usually takes about 10% HP approximately.
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  3. #13
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    KageTokage's Avatar
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    Alijana Tumet
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    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 100
    I was under the impression that in raids, you generally want to save LB3 to use during add phases unless using it ASAP will allow you to get a second melee LB3 off over the course of a fight.

    Though as far as SB goes, outside of it being virtually required for the OS3 add phase, it's only applicable for the OS7 Bibliotaph or during the Shinryu Extreme burn phase to nuke both of his wings.

    As far as dungeons go, it's most time efficient to use a caster LB to blow up a big pull of 5+ enemies. Otherwise, saving it for a melee LB2 on the final boss is probably ideal.
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  4. #14
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    Avatre Drakone
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    Cactuar
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    Dancer Lv 100
    PS4 can easily fit it. Remove the auto attack on(I don't have it on ANY of my hot bars) and you can easily fit LB on there.
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  5. #15
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    Sigma-Astra's Avatar
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    Soma Kagami
    World
    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    Though as far as SB goes, outside of it being virtually required for the OS3 add phase, it's only applicable for the OS7 Bibliotaph or during the Shinryu Extreme burn phase to nuke both of his wings.
    Tank LB3 was needed for Byakko EX if you wanted to just breeze through the run almost flawlessly during that second add phase. I have seen and been in parties where they've forgone it in order to just nuke the add themselves, but the DPS were spot on with no hiccups. You won't always find that in party finder.

    However, I've also seen tank LB2 used where people STILL survived with maybe a minimal death or two on the second add phase as well. But, healers have to be on duty and fairly good as well for the damage mitigation and capping everyone off the moment you're not stunned anymore and avoid Fire & Lightning.
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  6. #16
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    Aomine1992's Avatar
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    Daiki Sejuro
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    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 80
    I think in most cases they forgot about it or they are new...

    As for raid that's a different story I've seen melee literally fight over who has to do lb and who shouldn't lol
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  7. #17
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    Riyah Arpeggio
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    Exodus
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Vrankyl View Post
    If anything a higher HP pool would render the caster and ranged LBs ineffective since they do less ST damage than the melee one. In fact Melee LB is the preferred LB for all content unless a Tank LB is required, or in case of the second boss of Raba the caster one to deal with adds.
    I think Kaiva asked this in the case of duty finder, though. caster MB is better for dungeons imo, and the rare case u have add phases. in trials the bar rarely fills completely for some (lvl 50 hards) and people just use it at the end. Shin most people just save it for healers or to finish him off. Melee LB though is kind of useless overall in most casual content, it barely saves any time; like maybe u clear ten seconds faster on a boss. Like when people use it, he's almost dead anyways.

    really only time it got used in every fight was a12 normal, where u needed it to survive the attack.
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  8. #18
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    Hashmael Lightswain
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    Zalera
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 90
    The button also part of a menu that players aren't really prompted to explore at all. And considering you spend your first 15 levels in solo content, it's easy to never even know it exists by the time you can use it.
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  9. #19
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    Nephthys Yamada
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    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by KaivaC View Post
    <LB shenanigans>
    It's not a thing....its stupidity or ignorance.

    Much like esuna on healers...people don't use/don't pay attention/don't care.
    Don't you dare correct them..you'll get your head blown off.

    So what do I do? I use it whether they like it or not...no one else well (when dps'ing in terms of LB)
    Of if I'm in full mentor mode - I give the "command" to have LB triggered...sadly some don't get it.
    Even worse when a idiot tank ask's for LB during a super pull which does literally no good.
    Or when someone uses LB too soon or wasted it on some foolish mob.
    I'd go on but you get the idea.
    Basically I teach the sprouts the right time to use an LB..and when not too.
    Not to mention beating Esuna use into their heads.
    Bad habits are hard to remove. Adapt....try to move forward.

    PS: one of these days we need to meet up in crossworld. <3
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  10. #20
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    Sinh119's Avatar
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    Character
    Alexander Logarius
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 80
    It's not mentioned anywhere specifically in early content, or rather, it's not emphasized clearly enough for it to stick. Most people turn off the tutorial tooltips instantly, and any mention of LB is fleeting and un-impactful. I could very easily understand if new players have an apprehension to its use, and I assume the players you are running into are new as you specifically mention leveling and duty finder. There's that judgmental aspect that would make new players anxious, such as "Am I supposed to use it right now?" "Will they be angry at me if I use it?" "Will I look stupid?" etc... essentially a fear of failure. There's also that conservative mindset that people have where they save their most impactful abilities for the "right" situation, sometimes indefinitely (Happens a lot for damage CDs for new players as well). Regardless of what the case may be, the Limit Break mechanic is poorly explained in-game, and that's probably why you won't see it used very often in casual content, especially content that is dense with newer players.
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