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    Tridus's Avatar
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    Cecelia Stormfeather
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    It's a combination of "newbies don't know about it/how to use it" and "tanks and healers never get to use it so don't tend to pay attention to it" at lower levels, along with "but mah parse!!!" at high levels.
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    Survivor of Housing Savage 2018.
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    Remedi Maxwell
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tridus View Post
    It's a combination of "newbies don't know about it/how to use it" and "tanks and healers never get to use it so don't tend to pay attention to it" at lower levels, along with "but mah parse!!!" at high levels.
    Something that idd always irked me was how useless healer LB1 and 2 are, while tank have some sort of usefulness in some scenarios, healers LB are just an aoe heal and considering how strong aoe heals are alreasy in the game they don't stand out in any way, maybe SE should redesign them in some ways
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    Cecelia Stormfeather
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    Quote Originally Posted by Remedi View Post
    Something that idd always irked me was how useless healer LB1 and 2 are, while tank have some sort of usefulness in some scenarios, healers LB are just an aoe heal and considering how strong aoe heals are alreasy in the game they don't stand out in any way, maybe SE should redesign them in some ways
    Me too. Tank LB is niche but occasionally useful. DPS LB is of course almost always preferred. Healer LB 1&2 are basically only worth using if you are completely out of MP and the only person still standing is a tank. It doesn't really help newbie healers learn to care about the button, so they don't know about it when suddenly LB3 could save a wipe and be a crowning moment of awesome.

    Quote Originally Posted by lilithvincent View Post
    What other content do you ever need LB for at all? Certainly not Dungeons or 24 man content.
    It's pretty useful in trial roulette and alliance raids, both of which have a habit of turning into fiascos sometimes.
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    Loki Lux
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    Lamia
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    I'm a tank, so oftentimes I tend to forget about LB.

    But it does come down to forgetting, being new or even being yelled at for using it (or even oh crap the boss is dying faster than I expected). I can understand why people don't always do it.

    But I do have it on every dps and tank/heal hotbar just in case. My brain may just not always get that memo.
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    "Within each of us, the potential for great power waits to be released."

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    Kaze Shiro
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    Short answer Dps lost using it.
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    Player Dualgunner's Avatar
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    Lilila Lila
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    Machinist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by NephthysVasudan View Post
    I'm not going to argue with someone who has no clue what they are talking about.
    You're not worth the time. I'll just black list you in game if you decide to heal a party without esuna instead.
    This is a common sense aspect...not a "preference"
    Common sense is "right tool for the right job". If esuna isn't necessary for a particular instance it is a waste to take it.
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    Player NephthysVasudan's Avatar
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    Nephthys Yamada
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dualgunner View Post
    Common sense is "right tool for the right job". If esuna isn't necessary for a particular instance it is a waste to take it.
    I wouldn't be complaining if It wasn't needed.
    Surely you realized that.

    Yes...there are SOME..not many..but SOME instances where it's not needed.
    But there are many areas where it is...where esuna consumes less mana..requires less cures ultimately in your party in terms of healing.

    People who don't use it...force more work...and saddly..stupid accidents.
    This is not a matter of dodging damage...there are mechanics where you are forced to face roll debuffs.
    Frankly the "doom" answer is stupid..and just shows how utterly foolish people are.
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    Last edited by NephthysVasudan; 04-30-2018 at 11:33 PM.

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    Erilsa Leadleaf
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    Pugilist Lv 90
    I'll usually expect the caster to drop one on the wall to wall pulls, this doesn't happen usually. But I don't bother typing up the order midpull either as there's usually been a huge delay in doing so if it even happens.
    Will then Braver the final boss on opening, 2nd gauge is usually earned <10% if at all and bladedance goes into overkill or lands as it dies.
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    Player Dualgunner's Avatar
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    Lilila Lila
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    Quote Originally Posted by NephthysVasudan View Post
    I wouldn't be complaining if It wasn't needed.
    Surely you realized that.

    Yes...there are SOME..not many..but SOME instances where it's not needed.
    But there are many areas where it is...where esuna consumes less mana..requires less cures ultimately in your party in terms of healing.

    People who don't use it...force more work...and saddly..stupid accidents.
    This is not a matter of dodging damage...there are mechanics where you are forced to face roll debuffs.
    I'm actually given to believe more instances don't need it than do. The gauntlet is thrown however, mention all the instances that esuna is required instead of adopting a holier than thou attitude with the guy.
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    Player NephthysVasudan's Avatar
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    Nephthys Yamada
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dualgunner View Post
    I'm actually given to believe more instances don't need it than do. The gauntlet is thrown however, mention all the instances that esuna is required instead of adopting a holier than thou attitude with the guy.
    Nope...the "guy" will just make up more stuff that are ridiculous and foolish. Not worth the time. I couldn't care less of being accused of holier than thou...its not holier than thou.
    If I'm healing your party...you can be damn sure you won't have a stupid accident because I'll have Esuna and actually use it.
    Couldn't care less what anyone thinks beyond that.
    Heal smarter...not harder.
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