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  1. #1
    Player
    Leowilde's Avatar
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    Aegis Corona
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    Phantom
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    Dragoon Lv 88
    I haven't read the 10 past pages in the thread, so forgive me for any answers I may have missed.

    It might depend on the duty, but I don't relate to OP's experience. I'm running both low lvl dungeons, trials and all the way up to lvl 70 stuff, not counting raids and ex trials. I play DRG myself, so in most cases I am the party's first choice of dps LB. I tend to save it until the final boss, usually finishing off or close to with LB. I never hear anyone complain about that. However, sometimes someone else will pop it during an earlier boss, or even trash encounters, ie. for BLM's aoe. Also, the tank will occationally lead the party with suggestions on what to do when, and these tanks tend to tell when they'd like the dps LB to be used (boss usually, but also BLM sometimes on earlier encounters, and sometimes to save it for healer's LB if necessary).
    There has also been occations where I've been too late to trigger my LB, and the other DPS has done it to finish off the boss.

    So no, I don't think it's not a thing.
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    Astra Tsuki
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    Hyperion
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    Machinist Lv 70
    There's no way that LB1 does LESS damage than normal RDM AoE. It's a good possibility that you either aimed the marker incorrectly, or the mobs were moved outside it's radius before it went off (both of which would cause it to miss the targets and do no damage). Caster LB1 should at least knock about 1/4th to 1/2 of most trash mobs HP. If it doesn't, it's probably just a mob that has lots of HP (and there are a few, especially in later duties).
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    Axl Stream
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    Warrior Lv 90
    I mean if people would read tooltips (elitist, I know) and using a little logic (again, elitist, I know) people would atleast know how to use it properly. Looking at you mages and ranged DPS that use it when you got a perfectly able melee DPS.
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    Soma Kagami
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    Sargatanas
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by AxlStream View Post
    I mean if people would read tooltips (elitist, I know) and using a little logic (again, elitist, I know) people would atleast know how to use it properly. Looking at you mages and ranged DPS that use it when you got a perfectly able melee DPS.
    Hey, I'll have you know that I know my place regarding the LB as a caster! D:
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    Astra Tsuki
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    Hyperion
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    There's a time and place for each type of limit break.

    There have been plenty of times I've been yelled at for "misuse". The funny thing is, most times it's happened I have a perfectly good reason to use it when I did. Here's the things people need to remember sometimes.

    1. LB is not just for Melees (and Bosses)

    Sometimes an AoE LB works wonders on certain pulls, and even on a few bosses (like Tioman). Just because you (melees) have the most single target LB doesnt mean you are ENTITLED to it.

    2. Using LB before a reset (or a mass gain)

    This applies more to 8 and 24 man content. People need to realize that when your party gains hate from any "boss" encounter that gives you the 3rd bar, it will totally reset, thus wasting any you've built up. I've popped LB1 a few times in some of the old 24 mans simply because I know a boss is on the next pull. Now granted you can LB pull a boss, but thats usually never done anymore so... Also some encounters have "enemies" that give you a massive boost to LB, meaning you can pop it more than once, if timed right. Sohr Kai and Proto Ultima are good examples of this.
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    Fhaerron Kobayashi
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    Twintania
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    Paladin Lv 100
    I always call out DPS to use LB.

    I don't know how people don't see this, don't people read tooltips?
    Back in 2014 I created my first character, first thing I did after that intro quest was open my spell book and look at all the abilities and the descriptions and LB was the first I one I put on my bar.
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    Robas Kebas
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    Odin
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    I just forget. Most of the time I run expert with people I know, so when we are killing a boss I don't realise it's already almost dead.
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    I think that it's fair to say that, outside of Savage and a select few bosses where it's highly advantageous to use LB appropriately, as well as Byakko Ex and A12, LBs in their current iterations are essentially useless. Now, in my original post, I was just wondering about LBs - didn't really share an opinion on its potency, if it's good or not, when to use it, etc. But as it is right now, I do feel like...there's no point in using it outside of those above named situations, save for maybe shaving off a couple of seconds fighting a boss, gpose reasons, killing a mob faster, etc.
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    Auron Vale
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    Cactuar
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by KaivaC View Post
    gpose reasons
    The only REAL reason to use a LB :3

    For real though, I'm an LB whore. Many friends across many servers and data centers have said this about me. As soon as I hear that BASHIIIING, my finger is already on the trigger. I just love big, flashy attacks. Although SAM's LB3 leaves a bit to be desired, but I see why they couldn't make their LB3 Zantetsuken. Would have been sexy though O_O
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    Quote Originally Posted by alimdia View Post
    It really isn't that hard to treat other people like human beings.

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    Doom Moonwalker
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    Diabolos
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    Black Mage Lv 61
    Quote Originally Posted by whiteblade89 View Post
    The only REAL reason to use a LB :3

    For real though, I'm an LB whore. Many friends across many servers and data centers have said this about me. As soon as I hear that BASHIIIING, my finger is already on the trigger. I just love big, flashy attacks. Although SAM's LB3 leaves a bit to be desired, but I see why they couldn't make their LB3 Zantetsuken. Would have been sexy though O_O
    YOU TAKE YOUR GETSUGA TENSHOU AND YOU LIKE IT!
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