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  1. #41
    Player
    Mimilu's Avatar
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    Mimiji Miji
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    Exodus
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    Dancer Lv 100
    The other day, I was in Qarn (min level of 35) and the tank was a DRK wearing level 10-20 caster/healer gear (minus their weapon).
    It wasn't pretty... >x>
    They had a sprout next to their name, so the group's healer and I suggested looking into new *tank* gear, and that DRK's damage comes from STR and Tenacity. We were met with silence... >x>

    Personally, I think they need a min iLevel and they need to teach new players more about their job and role.
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  2. #42
    Player RiyahArp's Avatar
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    Riyah Arpeggio
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    Exodus
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    Scholar Lv 90
    the main quest literally tells you to go do hall of the novice, though. I don't mean in a way you can ignore, it marches you right up to the hall of the novice and tells you to talk to the guy before you can do satasha. They added gear vendors for every level up to 50 i think in the main cities. By the time you even get into satasha, you are already level capped. I'm not sure what else they can do.
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  3. 05-01-2018 02:33 AM

  4. #43
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    Starkbeaumont's Avatar
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    Raegen Beaumont
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    Spriggan
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    the real question is what's wrong with those queue'ing in such low level gear?
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  5. 05-01-2018 02:44 AM

  6. #44
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    Tridus's Avatar
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    Cecelia Stormfeather
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    Cactuar
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Driavna View Post
    I said this before but I don't think most will care about that. FFXIV players are very casual and from my own experience most players level up using roulettes and that's it. If with augmented Shire gear leveling roulette will never put you in any dungeon higher than Shisui of the Violet Tides or Sohm Al if you use augmented Ironworks, so what? Que times will even get worse for all the dungeon outside those ranges.
    I can live with the queue being a bit longer in exchange for not getting a total crapshow of a run where I have to carry a tank who will explode without spam healing. Especially since those are the ones who seem to think it's a great time to learn how to do big pulls.

    All the other content in the game has minimum item level requirements. It wouldn't be much of an adjustment to add them to levelling roulette.
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    Survivor of Housing Savage 2018.
    Discord: Tridus#2642

  7. 05-01-2018 03:26 AM

  8. #45
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    Deceptus's Avatar
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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 90
    There needs to be a minimum ilvl and a minimum main stat requirement.

    To stop people from cheesing the minimum ilvl by equipping gear they shouldn't be (other jobs). Right side gear mostly, or Tanks wearing DOW dps gear.
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

  9. #46
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    ChameleonMS's Avatar
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    Jordan O'niell
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    Gilgamesh
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    Paladin Lv 100
    A minimum requirement should definitely be added to all dungeons in the game. It does not even have to be a high level dungeon where this can be problem. A while ago I ran levelling roulette and got Toto-Rak. The tank was wearing lv10 gear and a couple gathering pieces to boot. I wrote about this on the Duty Roulette vent thread back when it happened.
    Yes, even in that low level place, without level appropriate gear the tank will die very, very fast, and forget about holding aggro. I was healing that run and had to babysit the tank and also tank half the run too.
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    Last edited by ChameleonMS; 05-01-2018 at 04:10 AM.

  10. #47
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    Rokke's Avatar
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    Novia Marius
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    Balmung
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    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Driavna View Post
    I said this before but I don't think most will care about that. FFXIV players are very casual and from my own experience most players level up using roulettes and that's it. If with augmented Shire gear leveling roulette will never put you in any dungeon higher than Shisui of the Violet Tides or Sohm Al if you use augmented Ironworks, so what? Que times will even get worse for all the dungeon outside those ranges.
    Waiting 20+ min for Doma Castle to pop isn't fun, but waiting 20+ min for Doma Castle to pop only to get full shire tank (that melts when an enemy so much as looks in his general direction) which frustrates the healer enough to bail and gives everyone the option to either sit and wait longer for a new healer or bail and hope your next run doesn't give you a shit tank is even less fun.
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  11. #48
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    Colino's Avatar
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    Colino Nyea
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    Omega
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    Culinarian Lv 90
    To add to this I really wish they also added job enforcement once they're unlocked. I had to run cutters cry with someone on pugilist and it was painful.
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  12. #49
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    KisaiTenshi's Avatar
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    Kisa Kisa
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    Excalibur
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Levarius View Post
    I'd like this, mostly because it would allow downgrading gear to avoid high level dungeons in leveling roulette. Maybe that's why it's not a thing, though.
    This actually brings up an interesting point, about people doing leveling roulette content entirely for the tomes/cracked cluster.

    Perhaps in addition to the minimum ilevel, to even select the leveling roulette, the player has to be equipped with minimum ilevel gear appropriate for the level they are at. For all other roulettes, the player needs to be equipped with gear that would allow all options for the roulette to be available.
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  13. #50
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    SDaemon's Avatar
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    Koala Shibito
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    Sargatanas
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    Viper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi View Post
    Perhaps in addition to the minimum ilevel, to even select the leveling roulette, the player has to be equipped with minimum ilevel gear appropriate for the level they are at. For all other roulettes, the player needs to be equipped with gear that would allow all options for the roulette to be available.
    If I'm understanding correctly you want people to carry around complete sets of gear of various level ranges in order to enter the different dungeons available in leveling roulette? What purpose would this serve?
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