If it’s between Dancer and Chemist for 5.0 which should be our next healer?

[Brightshadow]

Topic, which healer should be included next from these two?

1.) Chemist: A traditional healer that has roots as old as FF tactics as medics.
2.) Dancer: Tends to act as a support job and has over the years gotten some cures that make it a great contender as a healer.

http://www.strawpoll.me/15592227

[Enla]

Chemist. While both would be interesting from a mechanics perspective, I have to say that I'm heartily sick of the soft and robe/dress laden aesthetic that all our healers currently have in game. I truly want to see a healer that also doesn't rely on aetheric healing as well, but that's mostly from a roleplaying perspective. If we had the chance to get both however, I'd more than happily take it.

[Shurrikhan]

I'd prefer neither of those to be true healers. I want to see things that cut between the roles, the sooner the better. I know full well what changes would be necessary, systemically and on the communities part, for matchmaking, but I think it's honestly worth it.

Barring that, whichever is the more original and can remain viable while being less of a "standard healer", discounting also singular gimmick sets such as Cards or WHM/SCH style-swap abilities.

[Brightshadow]

Chemist. While both would be interesting from a mechanics perspective, I have to say that I'm heartily sick of the soft and robe/dress laden aesthetic that all our healers currently have in game. I truly want to see a healer that also doesn't rely on aetheric healing as well, but that's mostly from a roleplaying perspective. If we had the chance to get both however, I'd more than happily take it.

If CHM is added I’m sure they’ll be added to the dresses as well. The only unique look would probably be the AF armor, and they might make some medic/doctor looking healing gear for that expansion set.

I'd prefer neither of those to be true healers. I want to see things that cut between the roles, the sooner the better. I know full well what changes would be necessary, systemically and on the communities part, for matchmaking, but I think it's honestly worth it.

Barring that, whichever is the more original and can remain viable while being less of a "standard healer", discounting also singular gimmick sets such as Cards or WHM/SCH style-swap abilities.

Both would most likely be unique AST is our copycat healer.

[Jellybums]

Dancer dances while chemist.... chucks vials of potion at you, poisoned blow dart DOT, just saying a chemist administering medicine or poison, even buffs (roids??), personally I can't think of any serious ideas how that's gonna be done. Haven't played older FF games so...

If anything, with the chemist I think of weapons like acids and poison gases, not really pills or IV fluids on the field (man, the jokes just on the pills). It's like you want a chirurgeon on the field when they belong in a clinical setting.

[Tanama]

Chemist. I feel like the lore is already set for it.

[urban]

Chemist would be a nice addition and mechanic rotation...Dnc (dancer) would be great aswell healer/dps like in ff11 that would also be nice for those who wants to heal and dps

[kidalutz]

Chemist...
I'm hoping Dancer is a Deeps
Cause Yaknow the Troll from waay back when the intro vid to stormblood launched

[Ghishlain]

Dancer as a melee healer with some support elements would make me really happy~

[Risvertasashi]

I'd prefer neither of those to be true healers. I want to see things that cut between the roles, the sooner the better. I know full well what changes would be necessary, systemically and on the communities part, for matchmaking, but I think it's honestly worth it.

This comes up fairly often, but it has some major problems. Not just the matchmaking. You see, we saw this in heavensward 3.0 with Astrologian. It crashed and burned hard.

Anything that can fill a green role needs to be able to make all the healing checks in the game, and somewhat comfortably at that. If it doesn't, it will be shunned. If it does, but has amazing hybrid DPS (All existing healers are DPS/healing hybrids by more traditional games' design) or utilities on top of that, it will obsolete another healer (Another thing we saw, this time with late heavensward AST).

And we already have tanks that can entirely heal themselves through a lot of regular content, so that angle is pretty much already covered.

Chemist. While both would be interesting from a mechanics perspective, I have to say that I'm heartily sick of the soft and robe/dress laden aesthetic that all our healers currently have in game. I truly want to see a healer that also doesn't rely on aetheric healing as well, but that's mostly from a roleplaying perspective. If we had the chance to get both however, I'd more than happily take it.

For the rest of the thread... couldn't have said it better myself.