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  1. #1
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    MageBlack's Avatar
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    Sora Burakku
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    Anemos is stage one, the beginning of Eureka. As a base, i thought it was pretty good, lots of room to grow and expand.

    I heard lots of cries "We waited this long and had it pushed back for this?!??!??!!!" which i echoed somewhat until I saw that the next stage is coming 4.35, just one patch after the initial launch. That tells me that they have been working on all the stages of Eureka at roughly the same time as a comprehensive piece of content. To me its like we just finished watching the Pilot episode for a new series that introduced you to the characters, world, and setting. The next episode should continue to build on that. Another note, this is Anemos, the Isle of Wind. The next one is the Isle of Ice, take what you will from that. What direction that will take, i dont know but I am willing to be patient and see.
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    Adeacia Lightheart
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    Quote Originally Posted by KaldeaSahaline View Post
    Do you by any chance have any input on the actual mechanics therein? Good? Bad? in between?
    Everyone is equal when it comes to relics. No one has an advantage. Feel free to dislike it of course, it's just how it's designed. I prefer the way it is. You already have a way to get better gear first, Savage.

    I do like the idea of the weather having an effect on things like you described, and needing certain elements to hit boss weakpoints / cut off limbs is something I can get behind. Stuff that makes eureka more interesting without giving anyone an advantage, I want it.
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    Novia Marius
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adeacia View Post
    Everyone is equal when it comes to relics. No one has an advantage. Feel free to dislike it of course, it's just how it's designed. I prefer the way it is. You already have a way to get better gear first, Savage.

    I do like the idea of the weather having an effect on things like you described, and needing certain elements to hit boss weakpoints / cut off limbs is something I can get behind. Stuff that makes eureka more interesting without giving anyone an advantage, I want it.
    In the last relic, there are stages where you have a easy route that takes time vs. a shorter more difficult one. If you were willing to do the hard stuff (ie. savage speedruns), you could finish a stage in a couple hours. Personally, I wish there was something like that here. I hate Eureka so the sooner I could get my loot and leave the better.
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    Adeacia Lightheart
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rokke View Post
    In the last relic, there are stages where you have a easy route that takes time vs. a shorter more difficult one. If you were willing to do the hard stuff (ie. savage speedruns), you could finish a stage in a couple hours. Personally, I wish there was something like that here. I hate Eureka so the sooner I could get my loot and leave the better.
    I just did A1s over and over for anima light stage, for both my weapons (I made 2) I wouldn't consider that hard in the least bit since the bosses were dead before mechs even happened.
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    Considering how easy it is to be one shot in Eureka at lower levels as it is, I think it's just mean to want a constant bleed on your HP.

    Low level players would have trouble getting anything done
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adeacia View Post
    I just did A1s over and over for anima light stage, for both my weapons (I made 2) I wouldn't consider that hard in the least bit since the bosses were dead before mechs even happened.
    What do you think was harder in 3.x: Alex savage or Alex normal?
    One was content that casuals stuck to. Can you guess which?
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    Soma Kagami
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adeacia View Post
    I just did A1s over and over for anima light stage, for both my weapons (I made 2) I wouldn't consider that hard in the least bit since the bosses were dead before mechs even happened.
    Well, to be fair, you're well overgeared for A1S by now that I would hope some mechanics could be skipped at level 70 with a high ilvl of 340~360. When A1S was first released though? It was anything but easy.

    Don't forget that when Anima was first released with the light phase, we were still level 60 in Heavensward, not 70 in Stormblood, and you still needed to pay attention to certain mechanics like the missiles with the highest DPS being around 2,000ish and average ilvl's of 270, I think...? Now, we've got people doing 6,000 bouts of DPS uptime and new abilities and job gauges.

    We didn't have Echo then either and now we do! So, a lot has changed with the light phase now as opposed to when Anima relics were first introduced which I believe is what Rokke was getting at.
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    Last edited by Sigma-Astra; 04-28-2018 at 04:53 AM.

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    Cassandra Solidor
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sigma-Astra View Post
    Well, to be fair, you're well overgeared for A1S by now that I would hope some mechanics could be skipped at level 70 with a high ilvl of 340~360. When A1S was first released though? It was anything but easy.

    Don't forget that when Anima was first released with the light phase, we were still level 60 in Heavensward, not 70 in Stormblood, and you still needed to pay attention to certain mechanics like the missiles with the highest DPS being around 2,000ish and average ilvl's of 270, I think...? Now, we've got people doing 6,000 bouts of DPS uptime and new abilities and job gauges.

    We didn't have Echo then either and now we do! So, a lot has changed with the light phase now as opposed to when Anima relics were first introduced which I believe is what Rokke was getting at.
    Actually, you didn't. A1S was a complete faceroll by the time light farming released. He could kill you if people spread puddles all over the place, but even that required actual effort. There's a reason 5-6 DPS parties were routinely common.

    What opens up now though is A9S farming. Since you actually had to do mechanics back in Heavensward, people rarely wanted to bother. Nowadays, he's a joke with a decently competent group.
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    Last edited by Bourne_Endeavor; 05-01-2018 at 12:10 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    Actually, you didn't. A1S was a complete faceroll by the time light farming released. He could kill you if people spread puddles all over the place, but even that required actually effort. There's a reason 5-6 DPS parties were routinely common.

    What opens up now though is A9S farming. Since you actually had to do mechanics back in Heavensward, people rarely wanted to bother. Nowadays, he's a joke with a decently competent group.
    I must have been in some bad parties a while back then since it always seemed like we never had a problem with puddles, but missiles.
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    Maximum Powerful
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    Hyperion
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adeacia View Post
    I just did A1s over and over for anima light stage, for both my weapons (I made 2) I wouldn't consider that hard in the least bit since the bosses were dead before mechs even happened.
    You could make it more difficult for yourself and run A9S and get the light stage done even faster because that always gave the most light, but again since relic is for casuals/grinders and zero effort, most people could not do this and thus defaulted to lowest common denominator, the fast repeatable more guaranteed A1S.
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