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    Just some food for thoughts. Belgium has ruled lootboxes as gambling and warned some games about changing them or face some consequences. Now It's just a nation, but others might follow
    What ppl think is that ESRB was created as a way to gamindustri to self regulate itself and avoid governments butting in, however by ignoring the problems that companies were intruding they essentially forced governments hands and most are not sure that it's a good thing, since some games will simply die even if their service was a fair one.

    Also again I want to point out this is not against complaining

    edit daily limit or w/e(I think it's hour based tbh ayway): My point is dont' ask for higher powers to decide what's good and what's bad
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    Quote Originally Posted by Remedi View Post
    Just some food for thoughts. Belgium has ruled lootboxes as gambling and warned some games about changing them or face some consequences. Now It's just a nation, but others might follow
    What ppl think is that ESRB was created as a way to gamindustri to self regulate itself and avoid governments butting in, however by ignoring the problems that companies were intruding they essentially forced governments hands and most are not sure that it's a good thing, since some games will simply die even if their service was a fair one.

    Also again I want to point out this is not against complaining
    Except there isn't a loot box that you can buy in this game. The only ones you get(unless I am missing one) are from Palace of the Dead(Accursed Hoard), Diadem(Lock Boxes) and from Eureka(Lock Boxes again). So while it may be considered gambling, the only thing that is being spent is your time and not your money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Remedi View Post
    Just some food for thoughts. Belgium has ruled lootboxes as gambling and warned some games about changing them or face some consequences.
    Nothing SE sells for real money (and the lootbox issue is with real money, not random boxes found in games) is a lootbox or random in any way. That law has nothing to do with games selling add-ons, or even (beyond what SE does) battle-advantage boosts. "+150% damage for 5h" boost would not violate this, either. I think it's a great step forward but isn't going to affect XIV in the slightest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Remedi View Post
    by ignoring the problems that companies were intruding they essentially forced governments hands and most are not sure that it's a good thing, since some games will simply die even if their service was a fair one.
    Gambling is what seems to be the issue various governments are having. Using Overwatch one of their examples, Belgium officials said they're in violation entirely because you pay for a chance at winning X instead of outright buying X. Expansions/DLC aren’t in the crosshairs (at least, not here in the US or Belgium) so any company/game that doesn’t involve loot boxes should be fine. If anything, we're set to get more fragmented stories (a la ffxv or me3) with dlc gates to get the full story once more countries get on top of loot box regulation.

    That all said, none of that really effects us here at all cause XIV has no paid loot boxes.
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