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  1. #31
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    Honestly, if the users are irked by the amount of threads about these topics, there's no way the English community team and developers like Ferne and Corvin haven't seen them either. The West just has a different way of protest than Japan does and it's a lot louder and unruly. The main develops may not see this stuff but they'll definitely hear something about the discontent now that there have been so many threads made. We may not have official feedback on this, but there's no way some people at the company haven't been made aware of goings on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGrimace View Post
    Honestly, if the users are irked by the amount of threads about these topics, there's no way the English community team and developers like Ferne and Corvin haven't seen them either. The West just has a different way of protest than Japan does and it's a lot louder and unruly. The main develops may not see this stuff but they'll definitely hear something about the discontent now that there have been so many threads made. We may not have official feedback on this, but there's no way some people at the company haven't been made aware of goings on.
    I'm wary about it. I would be surprised if the devs did take notice of responses specifically from these forums, if I could be honest. It's not past the realm of possibility, but I just have a hard time imagining it. But if the devs do recognize and actually address the multitude of issues that folks have made lately, then I'l have no problem retracting every single statement I've made in this thread.
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  3. #33
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    Ruining the General Discussion? What does that even mean? It's a forum you will get negative and positive threads and based on what happens around the game, threads will lean in that direction. With the recent news from the live letter no surprise the threads are leaning more onto the negative side. It's just how game forums work. For example when a expansion releases the threads lean more onto the positive side. If something bad happens (diadem *pukes*) the forums get negative just like how it is now.

    If you don't like how the general discussion forum is right now why not take your own advice and just take a break from the forums for a bit to let things calm down if it bothers you so much? I noticed the general discussion forum is pretty boring sometimes so I don't come to the forum quite as often anymore until something interesting happens like live letters or new information from interviews which gives people things to discuss.

    Also there have been positive threads but they just don't last long here are a few:

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ng-but-the-app

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...for-this-game.

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...e-of-the-Azure

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...rbuncle-Attire

    There are more which aren't negative but you get the idea. It's just people don't need to say much on positive things while negative things generally create discussion and potentially changes to the game which are needed.

    Also this is from SE themselves. Around the time ARR released. So in theory what people are doing now with the unsub threads saying why they are leaving is what SE wants rather then leaving silently.

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    Last edited by Remus; 04-26-2018 at 08:45 PM.

  4. #34
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    Let us all proceed to counter negative threads full of people complaining by making threads complaining about people making threads to complain

    More negative threads complaining about negative threads will absolutely make all the negative threads go away.

    This is the internet, angry people are always the loudest. You won't see a lot of threads made by happy people because they have nothing to say, meanwhile /angry/ people want everyone to know they are angry and why.

    Congratulations: you have made an angry post complaining about what bothers you, you are now just like every other angry person on the forum.

    If you really wanted to give the forum a less toxic environment why doesn't everyone fill it with topics about things that they like instead of complaints about topics they don't?
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  5. #35
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    OP you are truly descending into a deluded narcissism now. Telling people how to play, telling people how to post on a forum. What next?
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  6. #36
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    But.. this is a platform for discussing a game that we all pay for?

    I wish more people would realize that this is a business we all have a contract with, which we accept when we sign up for the game. If something doesn't work as it should or could be improved people have the right to voice their opinion for the simple reason that there is money at stake.
    I'm not talking about frivolous things like "I need more glams!" topics of course, but when gameplay changes or gets disrupted for whatever reason customer WILL and SHOULD complain.

    An official forum for a game is not some safe place on the internet to share pictures of your cats and tell each other how special we are; I'm sorry if I'm bursting bubbles here but that's the simple truth. There are other places for that kind of things like your FC forums, FB or whatever.

    Please don't take this as a personal attack, everyone has the right to voice their opinion on anything about the game and I respect that. But telling others not to complain or to complain less because you don't like the "wave of negativity" is not exactly right. If more people are making themselves heard than something is probably not working as intended and part of the community wants SE to acknowledge that.

    I don't go into every glamour topics telling people to shut up because I believe it is not important, it would be pointless and disrespectful. Please respect your fellow gamers and respect their right to complain.

    PS I'm not on a personal crusade against glamours, it's the first thing that popped in my mind lol
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  7. #37
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    I agree. I like to post when I can and on what topics I have a view on or want to post my 2 cents in. It seems though that at the moment every topic is about how people hate this and that and the next thing and I just don't want to get involved in multi-page rants and arguments between 2/3 users. You get the occasional nice topic and it's soon washed off by a multitude of negative topics again...or recently topics poking fun at the negatives like "why I stay subbed" or whatever. I'm sure it's made in fun and jest but it then dilutes into a rant about the very topic it was poking fun at.
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    OP makes a toxic thread to end forum toxicity but in turn causes even more toxicity.

    How redundant.
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  9. #39
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    Wow it is almost like people are pissed off or something and letting SE know. You must be new to these forums cause this isn't anything new or unexpected
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  10. #40
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    Best to put the offenders on ignore. Shame their threads aren't hidden and sadly many here just continue to reply to them and give them the attention they seek.
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