Quit Ruining The General Discussions

[Ayer2015]

If we go by that logic of who upvoted the first post though, that's only 60 people. Even then that's not a lot of people complaining cause a majority of people who see mog station see it as what it is, a place for extra glamour and support for the game. They choose not to invest in it and they don't let it get to them.

The vocal minority that tends to complain about it are the ones who want X gear but don't want to spend the money to get it, so they complain it hopes of it getting cheaper for them.

From the number of people I see actually playing the game currently, its not a small number of people.

[Remedi]

Just some food for thoughts. Belgium has ruled lootboxes as gambling and warned some games about changing them or face some consequences. Now It's just a nation, but others might follow
What ppl think is that ESRB was created as a way to gamindustri to self regulate itself and avoid governments butting in, however by ignoring the problems that companies were intruding they essentially forced governments hands and most are not sure that it's a good thing, since some games will simply die even if their service was a fair one.

Also again I want to point out this is not against complaining

edit daily limit or w/e(I think it's hour based tbh ayway): My point is dont' ask for higher powers to decide what's good and what's bad

[Avatre]

Just some food for thoughts. Belgium has ruled lootboxes as gambling and warned some games about changing them or face some consequences. Now It's just a nation, but others might follow
What ppl think is that ESRB was created as a way to gamindustri to self regulate itself and avoid governments butting in, however by ignoring the problems that companies were intruding they essentially forced governments hands and most are not sure that it's a good thing, since some games will simply die even if their service was a fair one.

Also again I want to point out this is not against complaining

Except there isn't a loot box that you can buy in this game. The only ones you get(unless I am missing one) are from Palace of the Dead(Accursed Hoard), Diadem(Lock Boxes) and from Eureka(Lock Boxes again). So while it may be considered gambling, the only thing that is being spent is your time and not your money.

[InkstainedGwyn]

Just some food for thoughts. Belgium has ruled lootboxes as gambling and warned some games about changing them or face some consequences.

Nothing SE sells for real money (and the lootbox issue is with real money, not random boxes found in games) is a lootbox or random in any way. That law has nothing to do with games selling add-ons, or even (beyond what SE does) battle-advantage boosts. "+150% damage for 5h" boost would not violate this, either. I think it's a great step forward but isn't going to affect XIV in the slightest.

[Rokke]

by ignoring the problems that companies were intruding they essentially forced governments hands and most are not sure that it's a good thing, since some games will simply die even if their service was a fair one.

Gambling is what seems to be the issue various governments are having. Using Overwatch one of their examples, Belgium officials said they're in violation entirely because you pay for a chance at winning X instead of outright buying X. Expansions/DLC aren’t in the crosshairs (at least, not here in the US or Belgium) so any company/game that doesn’t involve loot boxes should be fine. If anything, we're set to get more fragmented stories (a la ffxv or me3) with dlc gates to get the full story once more countries get on top of loot box regulation.

That all said, none of that really effects us here at all cause XIV has no paid loot boxes.

[KaldeaSahaline]

I'd be curious where I stack up in this equation. I'm no stranger to controversy and I've openly admitted I really only post to pass the time when work is slow.

I've probably butt heads with most posters here, but I like to think I'm usually pretty level headed. Maybe condescending at worst.

So - let me know if I'm included in this bunch. Feel free to chime in anyone, not just Kaiva.

[InkstainedGwyn]

I'd be curious where I stack up in this equation. I'm no stranger to controversy and I've openly admitted I really only post to pass the time when work is slow.

I've probably butt heads with most posters here, but I like to think I'm usually pretty level headed. Maybe condescending at worst.

So - let me know if I'm included in this bunch. Feel free to chime in anyone, not just Kaiva.

Well, you're not on my block list yet, and I'm pretty liberal with it, so...

[HyoMinPark]

I'd be curious where I stack up in this equation. I'm no stranger to controversy and I've openly admitted I really only post to pass the time when work is slow.

I've probably butt heads with most posters here, but I like to think I'm usually pretty level headed. Maybe condescending at worst.

So - let me know if I'm included in this bunch. Feel free to chime in anyone, not just Kaiva.

Unless my headbutting with posters serves to leave some lasting, negative impression on me, I generally let things go. I can count on one hand the number of people that definitively stick out in my mind as having a lasting negative impression, and you aren’t one of them. So you’re gucci~.

[Ruf]

More like you should go back at not posting instead of pointing out an era like 'millennials" when in my opinion millennials are far greater on a lot of aspects & no cash shop is not one of them.

[Coratanni]

More like you should go back at not posting instead of pointing out an era like 'millennials" when in my opinion millennials are far greater on a lot of aspects & no cash shop is not one of them.

The millenials still living at home with their parents? The ones who cant stay employed with full-time jobs? The ones who rack up 6 figures in college debt with degrees that arent applicable in the real world for pliable careers? The same ones wanting their school loans forgiven because they struggle to pay them and make ends meet? I could go on, and on far too easily.