FF14 and additional fees

[ManuelBravo]

you may have missed my point, or just don't care. my whole point was people talk about slippery slopes or what this or that is suppose to be but in the end it was just a greedy way to get more cash and they will always push more if they can.

you are right though i am a F2p person myself this is the first and chances are only p2p game i will ever play. i have played online games for over 10 years and until arr came out it was all f2p games i never had to spend a dime on.

course at the same time i have been here since day 1 so i won't be quitting soon either.

Think you have missed the whole point about what this game is in the first place. It's a product of a business not a non-profit. At a minimum a player that plays online does not require 10 years of experience to know the difference. This greedy way that you call it is a business tool to make money. I've been on FFXIV since beta, also beta FFXI. so what does this have to do with anything? It's not a matter of being a slippery slope, is more of just plain ignorance that people can't accept that this is something that any company does in terms of business practices. The only way to stop anything of extra fees is to be proven that it's not profitable. Since it is bringing revenue additional fees will continue for unnecessary items that players just buy to burn money. If anything most of these threads are just of people venting anyways.

[Musashidon]

Think you have missed the whole point about what this game is in the first place.

actually i am not against you on the business practice at all. my arguement is a rebuttal to the OP saying they pay a sub to get everything in game, while yes i am against paying a sub, i still am as i find the game worth paying a little extra to play.

i don't care about slippery slopes i was just saying the slippery slope started at what they thought was ok.


and i brought up how long i have been playing not to rub it in your face but to say yea i am more of a f2p player and have mostly played them but to also show i have been playing p2p for a few years now.

i just feel there was a misunderstanding and was trying to clear it up but made it worse instead.

[Divinemights]

I will say Bathesda is better only if they announce fallout 5 this year

[Talraen]

We pay for expansions and a sub in this game, yet continually more and more additional paid features are added. The whole point of a sub MMO is NOT for this to occur.

I very strongly disagree with this sentiment. The idea that having a subscription means additional fees cannot exist is inherently dangerous for a very simple reason: it means the only way for a company to increase its revenue is to go free to play. And I for one do NOT want this game to go free to play. Since Square Enix no doubt wants to increase their revenue, telling them they can't have additional fees is the same as telling them to go free to play.

Square Enix, PLEASE do not go free to play with FFXIV.

[Rinuko]

Square Enix, PLEASE do not go free to play with FFXIV.

I'd be extremely surprised if it would. I mean XI isnt f2p.

Usually arguement with XI don't get f2p case no cashshop but they do have some additional services on playonline, so what would stop to add more things.

[Vstarstruck]

I'd be extremely surprised if it would. I mean XI isnt f2p.

Usually arguement with XI don't get f2p case no cashshop but they do have some additional services on playonline, so what would stop to add more things.

FFXI doesn't nickle and dime you by locking a basic ui feature behind a sub and a mog shop. FFXI doesn't have +21 dollars in EXTRA sub fees
FFXIV should be F2P since it is F2P model already just locked with a sub fee on top of it.
FFXI is also one charge time thing, like the token for an extra inventory bag.
That is the difference

[Sigma-Astra]

FFXI doesn't nickle and dime you by locking a basic ui feature behind a sub and a mog shop. FFXI doesn't have +21 dollars in EXTRA sub fees

Correct me if I'm wrong, but last I checked, I've only been paying my $13.99 sub fee every 3 months...so where is the +$21 coming from?

[Vstarstruck]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but last I checked, I've only been paying my $13.99 sub fee every 3 months...so where is the +$21 coming from?

from my understanding.. (what I read, I doono the prices personally)
7 retainer = 14 USD
app 5 USD
app blocked retainer 2 USD
+21 USD + base sub , as you see, base sub wasn't included for the "13.99"
just drop the sub fee all together, the mog shop, app and retainer fees alone make it F2P model

[MrPresident]

I miss it too.

Remember when you bought a game and that was it? All finished and full. DLC/Additional content could have been an amazing thing. Instead most companies use it to release half finished games for full price then make you buy the rest later.

[Ayer2015]

I miss it too.

Remember when you bought a game and that was it? All finished and full. DLC/Additional content could have been an amazing thing. Instead most companies use it to release half finished games for full price then make you buy the rest later.

FF15 is a prime example. Release a title with a fragmented narrative, then release paid DLCs to patch all the holes....